Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If only there were experts who could help settles this...

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Car-Safety-Seats-Information-for-Families.aspx

Yeah 13 for front seat regardless of weight. It's a bone and muscle development thing.

I see so many folks discarding booster seats at 8, and their kids don't fit properly in the seat belts. I don't get why these parents are so stupid. Might as well be anti-vax, it's the same principal.

Actually, it's not. It's the same principle.

It's not the same principal or the same principle. Anti vaxxers hurt everyone around them. That is why it is so egregious. Not just endangering the individual child but endangering the entire poplation. It is also a heightened risk permanently vice a higher risk for whatever specific drive you are on.

Anonymous wrote:I am 35 and I wasn’t allowed to sit in the front until the age of 12. This is not a new rule.

I wonder when it started?
I am 43 and remember riding in the front seat as young as 4 years old.

I am 35 and I wasn’t allowed to sit in the front until the age of 12. This is not a new rule.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If only there were experts who could help settles this...

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Car-Safety-Seats-Information-for-Families.aspx

Yeah 13 for front seat regardless of weight. It's a bone and muscle development thing.

I see so many folks discarding booster seats at 8, and their kids don't fit properly in the seat belts. I don't get why these parents are so stupid. Might as well be anti-vax, it's the same principal.

Actually, it's not. It's the same principle.

It's neither. Not vaxxing your child causes harm to the community. Not restraining your child properly only hurts your child. Not the same things AT ALL.

I think the principle they were likely referencing is that people who don't make evidence-based decisions about safe parenting practices in one are are likely to continue their poor decision making patterns in other areas. Or it could be a form of natural selection at work, their children are less likely to survive to adulthood.

In my state (CA) the child has to be 8 or older. Now, no one I know puts an 8 year old in the front seat, however, I do see a lot of 10/11 year olds. By 13, kids are for sure sitting in the front!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is 12 and sits in the back. He is about 5 foot 5 and is heavy.

I have 3 older children and they all waited till 13 to sit in the front.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m 5’4” and I weigh 130 and I sit in the front seat. There are many kids - especially boys - who are taller/heavier than me way before 13. Why is it safe for me (and adults smaller than me) and not them?

Your bone and muscle are done developing...

This. Your bones and tendons and joints are developed enough to help protect you in an accident. A child's body is still developing and cannot offer the same protection that your body does. There are more ways to damage a growing body that will have a life time of repercussions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is 12 and sits in the back. He is about 5 foot 5 and is heavy.

I have 3 older children and they all waited till 13 to sit in the front.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m 5’4” and I weigh 130 and I sit in the front seat. There are many kids - especially boys - who are taller/heavier than me way before 13. Why is it safe for me (and adults smaller than me) and not them?

Your bone and muscle are done developing...

Anonymous wrote:My son is 12 and sits in the back. He is about 5 foot 5 and is heavy.

I have 3 older children and they all waited till 13 to sit in the front.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m 5’4” and I weigh 130 and I sit in the front seat. There are many kids - especially boys - who are taller/heavier than me way before 13. Why is it safe for me (and adults smaller than me) and not them?

I allowed my children to sit in the front seat when they were in the fifth grade. However that was just for short drives like from the school to my house or from my house to the grocery store. Highway drives they were in the backseat.

My 11 year old is only 57 pounds. It will be quite a while before he can safely sit in the front (hoping for a big growth spurt).

My 11.5 yo is still in the back. Though I see a lot of younger kids in the front seat during morning drop off in the car line.

My 11 and 13 YOs don't. I don't care what others do.

My 11yo still sits in the back.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If only there were experts who could help settles this...

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Car-Safety-Seats-Information-for-Families.aspx

Yeah 13 for front seat regardless of weight. It's a bone and muscle development thing.

I see so many folks discarding booster seats at 8, and their kids don't fit properly in the seat belts. I don't get why these parents are so stupid. Might as well be anti-vax, it's the same principal.

Actually, it's not. It's the same principle.

It's neither. Not vaxxing your child causes harm to the community. Not restraining your child properly only hurts your child. Not the same things AT ALL.

Until the child is seriously injured in an accident and now the community has to provide special schooling, social security payments for life based on disability, and potentially medical expenses. All of which effect the community.

I don't understand how people fail to see how people miss the larger communal implications of pregnancies, car accidents, drug use and the like. They very rarely affect only the family involved. There is a large ripple through the community due to serious car accidents that leave anyone seriously injured. A family that chooses to not put a child in a booster seat or let the child ride in the front seat too early or doesn't use seat belts has a higher probability of suffering a serious injury or dying which will impact the community.

Wear your darn seat belt. Make your kid wear their seat belt. Make your kid sit in a booster seat and the back seat until they are old enough to not need those restrictions. The whining is far less annoying then visiting the hospital, or god forbid a cemetery, because you are being a responsible adult and telling your kid to sit in the booster seat.

Anonymous wrote:If only there were experts who could help settles this...

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Car-Safety-Seats-Information-for-Families.aspx

Yeah 13 for front seat regardless of weight. It's a bone and muscle development thing.

I see so many folks discarding booster seats at 8, and their kids don't fit properly in the seat belts. I don't get why these parents are so stupid. Might as well be anti-vax, it's the same principal.

My son would occasionally sit in the front but not after I learned it was by age because of bone development. He's in the back seat now until he's 13.