Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:04     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


I live in Nebraska. The cutoff here is July 31. A kid born in late June would definitely be the youngest in the class. There aren’t hardline rules, but the teachers prefer to have all older kids, and they will push to hold kids back, particularly boys.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 16:03     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!


Most people on this board are talking about Maryland - which has a September 1 cutoff or Virginia - which has October 1.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:52     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.


NYC resident here too. I don't take a hardline against redshirting -- that would be hypocritical of me as I am redshirting my late December kid (a private that uses year-end cutoff but will allow redshirting in some instances). But I am amused when I read threads worrying about June or other summer birthdays being too young for K ("It just seems so young for K and sitting still!") I'm like June?! Seems old!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:49     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:Get a grip. A hobby. Something.


You need to get a job.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:48     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only if you promise to complain non stop about him not being challenged enough.


Yes.


"My son is GIFTED. He's doing third grade math in second grade!"

Yeah, but he's 9, so technically he should be doing fourth grade math. Actually, he's a little slow . ..


Yeah, there's that. Huge spread in age in grades because of redshirting. I need to remind myself of this when I hear about what kids are doing in what grade -- second graders reading Lord of the Rings or whatnot. My district has an end of the year cutoff, some kids are 4 for half the year. My DC started first grade younger than than my friend's kid when she started K.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:47     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:They need to change the rules. It's getting absurd.


Non-DC resident here but curious: What exactly ARE the rules on redshirting? I'm shocked by these threads! I'm in NYC and there is a strict public school rule that all kids born in a given calendar year start K, etc. So you have kids born January-December 2014 all in one grade, etc. I'm not sure under what circumstances exceptions are made but unless you send your kid to private school redshirting is basically not an option. I know a handful of people with Nov/Dec babies for whom the rule really did compel them to look at private schools (this after overspending on real estate in the best public school district prior to getting pregnant) but other than that redshirting really isn't brought up.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:45     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:You suburbanites are so weird - why would you want to a admit that you’re child is developmentally behind and so needs to be held back an entire year?

I understand that you think it’s some kind of advantage, but it’s really an admission. I am sorry for you all. And you are going to have to have a big talk with your 19 year old high school attending sons.


Well honestly some kids really are developmentally behind and that’s just facts. You can “admit it” or hide it all you want, but facts are facts with some kids. Now he has a late summer birthday, not a spring birthday, so he’ll be 6 all of K and 18 all of senior year. So really not all that much older than a kid with an October or November birthday after the cutoff anyway. But yeah, that is a really weird line of thinking when the world can commonly see that a kid is behind their peers.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:45     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh, my late-July boy, who went on time, is always one of the youngest, but I guess I frame it as "He's doing so great AND he's one of the youngest! He must be super smart!" And conversely, when he has issues like talking too much and trouble sitting still, I can also rationalize "He'll grow out of it! He's nearly a year younger than some of the others--of course his behavior isn't quite as mature!" See, send your kids on time, and you can rationalize BOTH ways with me!



It is interesting that some people draw the same conclusion you did, while others hear the same feedback from teachers and think, "Oh no! We should hold him back--he wasn't ready for K, he needs more time to mature."


It can be a self fulfilling prophecy. Anything “wrong” with a young for the grade kid will likely be “blamed” on that (I know, I have an August bday boy who went on time). My Jan bday boy right now gets complaints about talking and I just think his teacher is sensitive to that and it’s not bc he is young for the grade
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:40     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:Huh, my late-July boy, who went on time, is always one of the youngest, but I guess I frame it as "He's doing so great AND he's one of the youngest! He must be super smart!" And conversely, when he has issues like talking too much and trouble sitting still, I can also rationalize "He'll grow out of it! He's nearly a year younger than some of the others--of course his behavior isn't quite as mature!" See, send your kids on time, and you can rationalize BOTH ways with me!



It is interesting that some people draw the same conclusion you did, while others hear the same feedback from teachers and think, "Oh no! We should hold him back--he wasn't ready for K, he needs more time to mature."
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:35     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Huh, my late-July boy, who went on time, is always one of the youngest, but I guess I frame it as "He's doing so great AND he's one of the youngest! He must be super smart!" And conversely, when he has issues like talking too much and trouble sitting still, I can also rationalize "He'll grow out of it! He's nearly a year younger than some of the others--of course his behavior isn't quite as mature!" See, send your kids on time, and you can rationalize BOTH ways with me!

Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:28     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Who redshirts spring birthdays? Anyway, you probably think my late July birthday boy with an IEP was redshirted because he's huge. He wasn't.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:27     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:You suburbanites are so weird - why would you want to a admit that you’re child is developmentally behind and so needs to be held back an entire year?

I understand that you think it’s some kind of advantage, but it’s really an admission. I am sorry for you all. And you are going to have to have a big talk with your 19 year old high school attending sons.


Eh, my brother was red shirted and he got a PHD and now is working on a cancer cure at NIH. Not really convinced we should feel sorry for redshirters.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:27     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: a Venmo diagram of redshirters and anti-vaxxers would be a circle.


Not at all.
Anti-Vaxxers don’t even send their kids to school. They unschool with tutoring as needed.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:24     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Unpopular opinion: a Venmo diagram of redshirters and anti-vaxxers would be a circle.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2019 15:23     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only if you promise to complain non stop about him not being challenged enough.


Yes.


"My son is GIFTED. He's doing third grade math in second grade!"

Yeah, but he's 9, so technically he should be doing fourth grade math. Actually, he's a little slow . ..