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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

This is not true. PP is full of bad info.

PP here. I have two kids at OOS schools on merit scholarships and my information is accurate. You need to check each school's requirements closely.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

Pitt costs just under $44K OOS. Given that, your OOS cost would be about $36K.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

This is not true. PP is full of bad info.

Miami-Ohio guarantees the same same tuition for all 4 years upon enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

I bet your kid is not old enough right? Incoming freshman? We lived thru one.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

A kid who qualifies for the money to begin with is unlikely to have a bad semester that takes the GPA below e.g. 3.0, which is often what is required to maintain the merit scholarship.

Many schools give the student some leeway in any case.

Second tier, small (but still good) LAC's routinely give $20-$30,000 to strong students from this area. And full rides to the best and the brightest.

As as example, my DC--who had a 3.7 UW GPA, 4.2 W-- got $5,000 in merit aid from SMCM and five times that from multiple SLAC's (private, OOS).

If paying $20K, $15K, or even $5K more for an OOS public is “close” enough for you, then you are very fortunate that money is not an issue for you. I don’t say that with malice but genuinely hope that you and your DC appreciate how lucky you are. But for those families where even $5000 more a year makes all the difference, it is unhelpful of you to say that there are OOS options for Maryland residents that are close to or less than UMD. And for a student that was not accepted at UMD, the merit $ amounts are going to be even lower so I really question how “close” to in state you are talking about.

UMD is $23,000 if you don’t include indirect costs like books. To make an apples to apples comparison, here are the similar costs for the schools being discussed if you only include housing, typical meal plan, and tuition + mandatory fees (no books, no supplies, no other incidental costs which can really vary)

UMD (in state)
Tuition and Fees - $10,595
Housing and Meal Plan - $12,429
Total – $23,024
https://admissions.umd.edu/costs

Miami-Ohio (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $34,895
Housing and Meal Plan - $13,860
Total – $48,754
https://miamioh.edu/onestop/your-money/tuition-fees/oxford-campus/undergrad-fall-2016/2018-cohort/index.html

U. of Alabama (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $30,030
Housing and Meal Plan - $13,402
Total – $43,432
https://financialaid.ua.edu/cost/

Pitt (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $31,102 (this increases for many majors) + $1950 fees (reduces a little bit after freshman year)= $33,052
Housing and Meal Plan - $11,582
Total – $44,634
https://oafa.pitt.edu/financialaid/costs/


U. Delaware (OOS)
Tuition and Fees - $34,310
Housing and Meal Plan - $12,862
Total – $ 47,172
https://www.udel.edu/students/student-financial-services/coa/

UMD is $23,024 for just tuition and room/board.
UMD is $26,796 when you include books/supplies ($1,250) and transportation/other costs ($2,522).

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

That maybe but if your DC has one bad semester (which most kids do), you can kiss that money goodbye.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

UMD costs about $27,000/year all-in, not $23,000.

My DC got $20K from Pitt, taking the cost to about $24,000. Less than UMD-CP for us.

At Miami/Ohio, a student with ACT: 33+/SAT: 1450+ and GPA 3.50+ will get half to full tuition, which would equate to between $15-$30K merit for OOS. That could take the cost to about what UMD-CP would cost, depending on the size of the award.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

Not that poster, but its very possible she is looking at tuition costs in isolation rather than total costs including room and board.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

I said close to in-state, not equal.

Anonymous wrote:Our DD did not get into UMD this year. She did not like the feel of UMBC when she visitied. She is okay with Towson, it was better than I expected with lots of new construction. Salisbury was a definite no and she would not even visit Frostburg.

She has received merit aid from several OOS schools that brings the cost down close to in-state, including places like Miami-Ohio and Alabama.

Not too many OOS flagships are going to come close to or under UMD’s instate cost of $23,000. As an example, my DS, who was accepted at UMD this year, got $8000 in merit aid at Pitt but the total OOS cost is still $40,000. He also got $14000 in merit aid at UDel but the total OOS cost is $37,000.

Miami-Ohio is $49,000 OOS. To get close to UMD’s cost, a student would have to receive $26,000 in merit aid. Alabama is $43,000 OOS so would require $20,000 in merit aid. Did your DC really receive that much aid?

Go to College confidential and read, read, read. You will learn re: merit aid. Prepare to apply widely, a lot of applications with the goal of landing a good deal. Do not fall in love with any particular school. Since it's pre-med, watch the GPA and whether the merit aid is GPA dependent. But if DC loses merit aid due to GPA they won't be heading to medical school anyway.