Anonymous
02/07/2019 10:21
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:If God thinks homosexual sex is a sin, why did he create people who are born gay?
And why was Jesus a homosexual man?
Loving sex is is not a sin.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 10:13
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP not sure if I understood your question. What do you mean with divine intervention? Can you give an example?
+1 - OP, please elaborate on your question. What do you mean by an "issue" with homosexuality?
God through the Bible is clear that homosexual sex is a sin, but I do not believe that He condemns gay people who may have these feelings. He is waiting for all of us to turn from our sins and back to Him.
It's truly hard to fathom an all-loving God who condemns as a sin the love of two people for one another. Even if there isn't a god, murder would be wrong because of the harm you are doing to someone else. Stealing would be wrong for same reason. Cheating on your spouse same, because of the hurt you are doing to another. Lying that hurts others - wrong. Greed that means others are affected by having less, or the earth is harmed because of the wasteful consumption - wrong. Ignoring the plight of the poor and sick -- wrong.
2 men or 2 women in a loving, mutually satisfying relationship? What actual harm does that do except the perceived idea that God doesn't like it? Name the harm you see without staying simply "it's a sin according to God." Who is harmed? What visible harm is there? Not buying it. Don't care what a few lines written by human beings 2000+ years ago say.
You will never, ever be able to convince me that the loving marriages of my friends and family members are "sinful" because they are 2 men or 2 women paired up instead of one man and one woman. Never. Ever. Love is love. And if God isn't love, then I'm not sure I want to have much to do with God.
In life is not everything black or white. Sin and abuse could creep in a Church recognized marriage and Grace could be seen in certain relationship considered sinful ( think of homosexual partners that support each other during serious diseases or unmarried couples sharing their love with friends and family). At the end only God will read hearts and know the true intentions. Said that I think the problem with gay sex is that is missing the ‘one flesh’ unity and the potential to generate new creation. Also, often sex outside marriage (hetero too) often lack commitment and is more for temporary pleasure and casual relationships. This focus on self fulfillment and living in the moment could bring other issues with it (partner treated as’disposable’, divorce, unwanted pregnancy, hurt feelings etc).
Anonymous
02/07/2019 09:25
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP not sure if I understood your question. What do you mean with divine intervention? Can you give an example?
+1 - OP, please elaborate on your question. What do you mean by an "issue" with homosexuality?
God through the Bible is clear that homosexual sex is a sin, but I do not believe that He condemns gay people who may have these feelings. He is waiting for all of us to turn from our sins and back to Him.
It's truly hard to fathom an all-loving God who condemns as a sin the love of two people for one another. Even if there isn't a god, murder would be wrong because of the harm you are doing to someone else. Stealing would be wrong for same reason. Cheating on your spouse same, because of the hurt you are doing to another. Lying that hurts others - wrong. Greed that means others are affected by having less, or the earth is harmed because of the wasteful consumption - wrong. Ignoring the plight of the poor and sick -- wrong.
2 men or 2 women in a loving, mutually satisfying relationship? What actual harm does that do except the perceived idea that God doesn't like it? Name the harm you see without staying simply "it's a sin according to God." Who is harmed? What visible harm is there? Not buying it. Don't care what a few lines written by human beings 2000+ years ago say.
You will never, ever be able to convince me that the loving marriages of my friends and family members are "sinful" because they are 2 men or 2 women paired up instead of one man and one woman. Never. Ever. Love is love. And if God isn't love, then I'm not sure I want to have much to do with God.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 09:15
Subject: Re:If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:God doesn't have an issue with homosexuality he has an issue with gay sex just like he has an issue with ANY sex outside of marriage
Thank goodness we've now legalized gay marriage!
Anonymous
02/07/2019 08:49
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
In Catholic teachings homosexuality is not a sin, homosexual sex is a sin. In fact all sex acts outside marriage are considered sins as well (adultery, fornication etc).
Anonymous
02/07/2019 08:45
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
If God thinks homosexual sex is a sin, why did he create people who are born gay?
Anonymous
02/07/2019 08:01
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
OP I am Catholic. There are still many things that I don’t understand fully and like everybody else sometimes I struggle with doubts and questions without answers. Ambiguity about homosexuality, recent scandals, presence in the world of innocent people suffering and devastating diseases etc. However I still remain Catholic because I found in the Church and in Christ a source of inner peace that is helping me to embrace lovingly the world around me and my own ‘brokenness’. I found in Christ a new meaning for my life and hope for eternity. So I choose everyday to stay faithful and when will be the my time to leave this world hopefully I will finally be fully in presence of God and we will see and understand things fully.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 07:20
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:
I didn't say that the PP had no right to post here, I asked why they did. In your case, you don't believe in a Judeo-Christian God, but you follow a religion and that religion does have gods, if not a single God. However, whether you believe in a God or gods, you do follow a religion and this Forum is for the discussion of religions.
Since religion is about unwavering Faith in a religious system and a Deity or deities, I'm not sure that the PP's statement above will be agreed to by the majority of the audience. It's like trying to convince birds that they shouldn't fly.
Fascinating. PP, I think that perspective is more about what you are comfortable with than about religion as a bigger topic.
Most religious leaders I have worked with -- and several religious writings -- address crises of faith and doubts as a natural part of the arc of religious beliefs over time. Dealing with that over the course of a life is a part of "religion" in the big sense, too.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 07:08
Subject: Re:If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Free will is the answer. God gives us free will and it is our decision to live and act on our faith.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 23:39
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Why are some people born with horrific health issues and others not? The last of God's issues would be homosexuality- my guess is that it isn't on the radar screen of importance.
Actually, if I believed in God, I would imagine s/he would be confused as to why anyone would have a problem with two people in love.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 23:15
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Why are some people born with horrific health issues and others not? The last of God's issues would be homosexuality- my guess is that it isn't on the radar screen of importance.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 23:11
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:God is not real. He is a fictional character.
So, if you believe that, why would you be reading and responding to a thread in the Religion forum?
Umm...because it’s the RELIGION forum? It’s not the “Christianity” forum or the “Abrahamic religions” forum. You realize that there are religions that *gasp* don’t believe in god, correct?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 23:10
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And don't tell me AIDS/HIV is divine intervention, that effects every group out there. God doesn't care, in fact I'm of the belief, that he has more important things to worry about.
Your premise is incorrect as God does not interfere with actions of free will, which explains why serial killers and Hitler managed to exist.
Not that gay people have anything in common with Hitler.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 22:53
Subject: Re:If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:Yet more stupid and theologically ignorant questions...
You are free to commit any kind of sin you want. God gave you the power of choice. It does not mean He's not against sin if he doesn't strike you down with lightning when you commit it.
God indeed "cares" about your sins, as you will find out to your probable eternal discomfiture after you die.
SOunds like PP's god gets turned on thinking about people who burn in hell.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 17:40
Subject: If God had an issue with homosexuality, where is divine intervention?
Anonymous wrote:And don't tell me AIDS/HIV is divine intervention, that effects every group out there. God doesn't care, in fact I'm of the belief, that he has more important things to worry about.
Your premise is incorrect as God does not interfere with actions of free will, which explains why serial killers and Hitler managed to exist.