No. I believe no one cares. Neither men nor women nor the person who is transformed by fake things.

Remember that even with all the enhancements and cosmetics, some people are attractive and some are not attractive.

My dh doesn’t notice anything. When he learned of fake lashes (because I went to get some on) he said “oh I thought some people just had really nice lashes” his mind was blown, same thing with a contouring video he saw. He doesn’t care nor notice how fake/plastic/painted someone is and I would put him in the Bezos category of cluelessness about things that stand out as obviously extreme to women.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be curious to know whether there is a correlation between a woman's libido and her willingness to put effort into appearance.

I mean, I have a general notion that a woman who chafes at the idea of make up and other enhancements just to impress a man will also be somewhat asexual. But, I certainly don't have any real evidence to support that notion.

Not true.
I actually have a feeling that it might be the reverse.

I guess I could see that too. Maybe the type of woman who is so worried about external approval that she puts a bunch of effort into looking different for the world is also the type of woman who can't get out of her own head enough to enjoy sex very much.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be curious to know whether there is a correlation between a woman's libido and her willingness to put effort into appearance.

I mean, I have a general notion that a woman who chafes at the idea of make up and other enhancements just to impress a man will also be somewhat asexual. But, I certainly don't have any real evidence to support that notion.

Not true.
I actually have a feeling that it might be the reverse.

I'm doubtful there is a universal correlation...but I personally put above average effort in my appearance, and DCUM would definitely count me as low libido.

Anonymous wrote:I'd be curious to know whether there is a correlation between a woman's libido and her willingness to put effort into appearance.

I mean, I have a general notion that a woman who chafes at the idea of make up and other enhancements just to impress a man will also be somewhat asexual. But, I certainly don't have any real evidence to support that notion.

Not true.
I actually have a feeling that it might be the reverse.

Anonymous wrote:Guy here. I guess I don’t really think in terms of real or fake. If I’m attracted to someone and I like them then I’m in.

As far as beauty goes, isn’t it all a little unnatural? Hairless bodies, 5 different types of paint just on your face, dyed hair, manicures and pedicures, etc?

I feel bad for women having to keep all of that up but you can take solace in the fact that internet dating is changing the game for men. Unless they’re in the top 20% they’re Tinder gets pretty lonely. Men are going to have to start stepping it up too - hitting the gym, paying better attention to fashion, getting those giant ears pinned back, getting pickle upgrade, whatever.

You can get a pickle upgrade? WTF.

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Anonymous wrote:“Fake” beauty looks very different on a screen than in real life. My DH notices false lashes, thick eyebrows, that black cat eye liner, lip injections, and Botox in real life but doesn’t notice them on tv unless I point it out. A lot of women and girls nowadays are trying to look like those on screens without realizing those things often look terrible in real life.

As for what men prefer, that’s individual. I’ve known men who like the fake look and men who hate it.

Your DH does not notice these things on real women or tv. You notice and point it out to him. He nods in agreement.

Nope, he does. He usually comments on them before I do, and usually that comment is "omg she looks terrifying", even if I think she looks great, ha.

As a guy it is all about how you carry yourself. A woman that clearly takes care of herself, dressed in well fitting clothes appropriate for the setting is a major turn on.

Beautiful woman dressed like crap become ugly really quickly.

Made up/fake whatever done subtly is fine. When you look like you trying that is when it looks bad.

I'd be curious to know whether there is a correlation between a woman's libido and her willingness to put effort into appearance.

I mean, I have a general notion that a woman who chafes at the idea of make up and other enhancements just to impress a man will also be somewhat asexual. But, I certainly don't have any real evidence to support that notion.

Guy here. I guess I don’t really think in terms of real or fake. If I’m attracted to someone and I like them then I’m in.

As far as beauty goes, isn’t it all a little unnatural? Hairless bodies, 5 different types of paint just on your face, dyed hair, manicures and pedicures, etc?

I feel bad for women having to keep all of that up but you can take solace in the fact that internet dating is changing the game for men. Unless they’re in the top 20% they’re Tinder gets pretty lonely. Men are going to have to start stepping it up too - hitting the gym, paying better attention to fashion, getting those giant ears pinned back, getting pickle upgrade, whatever.

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I would never consent to elective surgery, but honestly, I couldn't care less what others do. There is no fake or natural, just beauty.

How do you define that, then?

Beauty? In the eye of the beholder. I don't have the same tastes as you, probably. But on a basic level, even and healthy skin, symmetrical features, toned body. And then I don't like strong noses or eyes too close together, but that's just me. In terms of aging, well, youthfulness is always better but it has to be tasteful.

So personality has no impact on attraction? Even if the woman is attractive in natural way?

PP you replied to. It makes all the difference in the world! But you were talking about beauty, and that for me is a physical term. Attraction comprises beauty and personality, and even physically uninteresting people can be fun/witty/warm, and eventually be appealing.

Jeff Bezos hasn’t.

Cue the “there is no such thing as plain with men as long as you have a cute face and figure” poster. Keep telling yourself that, honey.

ALL beauty is fake. All women attempt to improve on nature. It is only a question of degree.

Guy here. I notice the obvious stuff. DW gets lash extensions so I've gotten used to it and can tell the difference. Before I probably couldn't. Can tell fake tits, lips, etc when it's obvious. I'm sure there are many women that have had work done and I cant tell.
I don't know if I'd ever be able to pick out a fake nose

Do I care? No. I'm not a fan of a lot of plastic surgery, I hope DW doesn't ever want any. I'm not a fan of plastic faces that either can't show expression or show a weird expression because of so much botox. So I care in the sense that I'm more attracted to natural but.imperfect beauty over manufactured perfect. But women can do whatever they want and I don't judge.