Anonymous wrote:So, it you were walking distance to Langley, and walking (a longer walk) distance also to Garrison or Seaton, would you go to Langley?

no, go to Seaton.

So, it you were walking distance to Langley, and walking (a longer walk) distance also to Garrison or Seaton, would you go to Langley?

Anonymous wrote:Sure, after it was called out that the original gangstas weren’t original at all.

Sorry for not monitoring every DCUM comment every single hour of the day, I guess.

Sure, after it was called out that the original gangstas weren’t original at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m raising my eyebrows at the forgotten history and work done at Langley before the “original gangstas” came.

This is exactly what gentrification is to the person who said it wasn’t gentrification.

Some people just never knew the history, they might not have been paying attention to schoolw before havig kids.

I don't think anyone would say it isn't gentrifying, but I find it interesting to look at the changes in more detail. It isn't just very low income and very high income people in DC. There are lots of ways to examine the data.

Nope. If they were truly trying to become a part of the community they would have stood on the shoulders of those who came before them. From what I’m reading here, from people with experience, this group considered themselves the reason why the school “is getting better”. Recognize and celebrate those that have come before you and don’t act as those you are a savior.

Also? Gentrification doesn’t mean poor and wealthy. It means changing something to be more acceptable to the middle class.

Someone literally JUST gave an overview of PTA history praising those who came before. Did you read it?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m raising my eyebrows at the forgotten history and work done at Langley before the “original gangstas” came.

This is exactly what gentrification is to the person who said it wasn’t gentrification.

Some people just never knew the history, they might not have been paying attention to schoolw before havig kids.

I don't think anyone would say it isn't gentrifying, but I find it interesting to look at the changes in more detail. It isn't just very low income and very high income people in DC. There are lots of ways to examine the data.

Nope. If they were truly trying to become a part of the community they would have stood on the shoulders of those who came before them. From what I’m reading here, from people with experience, this group considered themselves the reason why the school “is getting better”. Recognize and celebrate those that have come before you and don’t act as those you are a savior.

Also? Gentrification doesn’t mean poor and wealthy. It means changing something to be more acceptable to the middle class.

Anonymous wrote:I’m raising my eyebrows at the forgotten history and work done at Langley before the “original gangstas” came.

This is exactly what gentrification is to the person who said it wasn’t gentrification.

Some people just never knew the history, they might not have been paying attention to schoolw before havig kids.

I don't think anyone would say it isn't gentrifying, but I find it interesting to look at the changes in more detail. It isn't just very low income and very high income people in DC. There are lots of ways to examine the data.

I’m raising my eyebrows at the forgotten history and work done at Langley before the “original gangstas” came.

This is exactly what gentrification is to the person who said it wasn’t gentrification.

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Anonymous wrote:original ganstas? really?

you know there have been children at Langley for years. It didn't open brand new in 2015.

Also what isn't cross-referenced with the enrollment data above is the lottery data.

Langley offered 9 Pk4 and 7 seats for K in 17-18

For 18-19 they had an initial PK4 wait list of 10, and made 9 offers to that WL by Oct. They also offered 20 seats for K.

So while the class sizes are getting more stable from year to year, the data doesn't tell us whether they are backfilling for students who leave or whether students are staying from year to year.

The school-wide re-enrollment from 16-17 to 17-18 was 62% (Dc average is 82%).
https://dcschoolreportcard.org/schools/1-0370/metric/reenrollment?lang=en

PP is referencing the "original crew" above. Langley has existed in some form for many decades and has many alumni among the parents and grandparents.

That data only show initial lottery applicants. Far more offers were made than that. It is a popular school for post-lottery arrivals and those who struck out. Good bus access and aftercare for all.

Those 20 K seats were an attempt to add a classroom, but it didn't fill so now there's just one.

They used "gangsta' -- clearly trying to appropriate a hip hop term. Which, since it was in the context of how many gentrifiers there are, is ... a pretty clueless cultural appropriation.

But we digress.

It may seem that the fall 2016 cohort was a big turning point. And it was, in terms of the boundary change and the new principal who brought in a different approach. But the PTA came into formal legal existence and got its 501c3 status in 2011, the same year that Shaed and Emery were merged to form Langley. So when the fall 2016 folks started volunteering, much of the groundwork was already in place. There was a small but active PTA with very nice and capable leadership. That year, the PTA president was a longstanding parent at the school and she was terrific. Langley really struggled in those first few years due to annual changes in its leadership. Put in a permanent principal who is competent and motivated and surprise surprise, things start to improve.

Some of Langley's most active parents live north and east of the school so you might not run into them, especially if your social world revolves around baby and toddler activities. Attend an Open House and you may meet them.

Anonymous wrote:original ganstas? really?

you know there have been children at Langley for years. It didn't open brand new in 2015.

Also what isn't cross-referenced with the enrollment data above is the lottery data.

Langley offered 9 Pk4 and 7 seats for K in 17-18

For 18-19 they had an initial PK4 wait list of 10, and made 9 offers to that WL by Oct. They also offered 20 seats for K.

So while the class sizes are getting more stable from year to year, the data doesn't tell us whether they are backfilling for students who leave or whether students are staying from year to year.

The school-wide re-enrollment from 16-17 to 17-18 was 62% (Dc average is 82%).
https://dcschoolreportcard.org/schools/1-0370/metric/reenrollment?lang=en

PP is referencing the "original crew" above. Langley has existed in some form for many decades and has many alumni among the parents and grandparents.

That data only show initial lottery applicants. Far more offers were made than that. It is a popular school for post-lottery arrivals and those who struck out. Good bus access and aftercare for all.

Those 20 K seats were an attempt to add a classroom, but it didn't fill so now there's just one.

original ganstas? really?

you know there have been children at Langley for years. It didn't open brand new in 2015.

Also what isn't cross-referenced with the enrollment data above is the lottery data.

Langley offered 9 Pk4 and 7 seats for K in 17-18

For 18-19 they had an initial PK4 wait list of 10, and made 9 offers to that WL by Oct. They also offered 20 seats for K.

So while the class sizes are getting more stable from year to year, the data doesn't tell us whether they are backfilling for students who leave or whether students are staying from year to year.

The school-wide re-enrollment from 16-17 to 17-18 was 62% (Dc average is 82%).
https://dcschoolreportcard.org/schools/1-0370/metric/reenrollment?lang=en

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Anonymous wrote:Come on in, neighbor. We are loving it. Come to our Community Night at Spark on Friday, there will be a band!

It is not so much gentrifying as seeing a big uptick in middle-income kids and they tend to do just fine academically. We love the atmosphere and Playworks and Foodprints. And we love being a part of making it great. Commuting sucks.

I’m sorry but isn’t that the definition of gentrifying? The idea that the school is changing because it’s becoming more middle class and now more middle class families go there while other families are being displaced? (Don’t try to tell me people aren’t being displaced. The racial makeup of the neighborhood has very much changed)

Not PP but I think the point is that there are more moderate-income kids, as distinct from high-income.

Langley has a very large buiding. Nobody would dispute that housing costs in the neighborhood are absurd and people are being displaced. But Langley can fit another 200 kids in the building and has ample OOB kids at every level. It used to go up to 8th grade and now only goes to 5th so there is extra room right now.

So we don't have the grade by grade enrollment data for SY 18-19 yet, but the enrollment at Langley was pretty constant for the 3 years prior. There was a pretty significant jump in both PK3 and K in 17-18. https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

SY/PK3/PK4/K/ECE enrollment/total school enrollment

15-16 28/30/33 / 91/278

16-17 23/38/27/88/284

17-18 41/26/39/106/275

18-19 enrollment will show an increase.

There used to be only two Pk3s and now there are three. This makes it much easier to fully enroll PK4. Most cohorts at Langley have two classrooms but some (K and 3rd) have just one. So you will see some fluctuations as those groups progress through the grades. It is just based on the number of kids who enroll. In the future, noe that Langley attracts enough families, there will be two of every grade.

Fine - but last year's total enrollment was lower than it was in 15-16 while the ECE enrollment was up by 15 students. There's been growth in ECE -- and a decrease in enrollment in the rest of the grade.

I totally believe you that it's up for 18-19, but may go down due to the STAR rating next year. You may not care about them, but parents of all backgrounds in upper grades might. No way to predict.

My only point is that it takes a really long time to get neighborhoods to fully buy into a school and feeder path all the way through.

Maybe, it's hard to know. People come and go for all kinds of reasons. The new Mundo Verde will make for a very tough retention year.

The star report card says enrollment is 330. I feel like that must be a mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on in, neighbor. We are loving it. Come to our Community Night at Spark on Friday, there will be a band!

It is not so much gentrifying as seeing a big uptick in middle-income kids and they tend to do just fine academically. We love the atmosphere and Playworks and Foodprints. And we love being a part of making it great. Commuting sucks.

I’m sorry but isn’t that the definition of gentrifying? The idea that the school is changing because it’s becoming more middle class and now more middle class families go there while other families are being displaced? (Don’t try to tell me people aren’t being displaced. The racial makeup of the neighborhood has very much changed)

Not PP but I think the point is that there are more moderate-income kids, as distinct from high-income.

Langley has a very large buiding. Nobody would dispute that housing costs in the neighborhood are absurd and people are being displaced. But Langley can fit another 200 kids in the building and has ample OOB kids at every level. It used to go up to 8th grade and now only goes to 5th so there is extra room right now.

So we don't have the grade by grade enrollment data for SY 18-19 yet, but the enrollment at Langley was pretty constant for the 3 years prior. There was a pretty significant jump in both PK3 and K in 17-18. https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

SY/PK3/PK4/K/ECE enrollment/total school enrollment

15-16 28/30/33 / 91/278

16-17 23/38/27/88/284

17-18 41/26/39/106/275

PP, see how the cohorts move up diagonally? It isn't really a jump in K, it's a big PK4 cohort (38) moving up and adding one kid (39). The fall 2016 group (original gangstas) has always been small, not sure why as the grade above them is bigger. So those 26 PK4s from last year now form a single K class in 18-19. It's pretty stable if you look diagonally.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on in, neighbor. We are loving it. Come to our Community Night at Spark on Friday, there will be a band!

It is not so much gentrifying as seeing a big uptick in middle-income kids and they tend to do just fine academically. We love the atmosphere and Playworks and Foodprints. And we love being a part of making it great. Commuting sucks.

I’m sorry but isn’t that the definition of gentrifying? The idea that the school is changing because it’s becoming more middle class and now more middle class families go there while other families are being displaced? (Don’t try to tell me people aren’t being displaced. The racial makeup of the neighborhood has very much changed)

Not PP but I think the point is that there are more moderate-income kids, as distinct from high-income.

Langley has a very large buiding. Nobody would dispute that housing costs in the neighborhood are absurd and people are being displaced. But Langley can fit another 200 kids in the building and has ample OOB kids at every level. It used to go up to 8th grade and now only goes to 5th so there is extra room right now.

So we don't have the grade by grade enrollment data for SY 18-19 yet, but the enrollment at Langley was pretty constant for the 3 years prior. There was a pretty significant jump in both PK3 and K in 17-18. https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

SY/PK3/PK4/K/ECE enrollment/total school enrollment

15-16 28/30/33 / 91/278

16-17 23/38/27/88/284

17-18 41/26/39/106/275

18-19 enrollment will show an increase.

There used to be only two Pk3s and now there are three. This makes it much easier to fully enroll PK4. Most cohorts at Langley have two classrooms but some (K and 3rd) have just one. So you will see some fluctuations as those groups progress through the grades. It is just based on the number of kids who enroll. In the future, noe that Langley attracts enough families, there will be two of every grade.

Fine - but last year's total enrollment was lower than it was in 15-16 while the ECE enrollment was up by 15 students. There's been growth in ECE -- and a decrease in enrollment in the rest of the grade.

I totally believe you that it's up for 18-19, but may go down due to the STAR rating next year. You may not care about them, but parents of all backgrounds in upper grades might. No way to predict.

My only point is that it takes a really long time to get neighborhoods to fully buy into a school and feeder path all the way through.