Anonymous wrote:What does the fire department say?

The fire department says you can fit more bodies in a room than is educationally useful (think about auditoriums). Their main concern is how many exits do you have.

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Anonymous wrote:if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

This is a serious question - what about diversity EOTP where there currently is very little. Or I should say where currently very few white students are attending their neighborhood schools.

Folks do realize that most of the so called gentrifiers are not sending their kids to their neighborhood public schools, in part because of charters and in part because of the release valve of Deal and Wilson? And if you got rid of those options you'd actually have diverse public schools EOTP?

Hi, welcome to DCUM. I'm sorry, but although you may feel your question is serious, you have clearly not seriously considered it.

Yep - they obviously don't have kids of their own, or they'd realize that without charters and the "release valve" of Deal and Wilson, those of us EOTP would take our high incomes (but not high enough for 2+ kids @$44k/year private) to the suburbs.

Actually I do have kids.

And my oldest is part of a group that is likely going to give Wilson a freshman class of at least 800 in a couple of years.

And we are here because we have a bunch of privileged gentrifiers who want to live EOTP but not send their kids to schools EOTP and this happens to be the issue longtime EOTP residents should be most upset about as the culture of their neighborhood is changing but not the schools because the wealthy newcomers have the wherewithal to find alternate options.

The problem is the numbers don't add up at Deal and Wilson - I posted this last night in a now deleted part of this thread but the nearest 4 elementary schools to Wilson alone are going to send 600 students there in just 2 years.

There are however enough middle and upper middle class families funneling through Deal/Hardy & Wilson to create a second MS & HS EOTP with a similar ethnic and SES mix.

Or we can just keep doing what we are doing and Wilson will have 3200 students in a school designed for 1800 in 4-5 years while we have renovated EOTP high schools at one-quarter capacity because courageous yuppies lack the courage to go to schools in their own neighborhood with their neighbors.

And since you presumably haven't yet sent your kids to Deal & Wilson you may not be aware of how diverse the two schools actually are

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Anonymous wrote:if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

This is a serious question - what about diversity EOTP where there currently is very little. Or I should say where currently very few white students are attending their neighborhood schools.

Folks do realize that most of the so called gentrifiers are not sending their kids to their neighborhood public schools, in part because of charters and in part because of the release valve of Deal and Wilson? And if you got rid of those options you'd actually have diverse public schools EOTP?

Hi, welcome to DCUM. I'm sorry, but although you may feel your question is serious, you have clearly not seriously considered it.

Yep - they obviously don't have kids of their own, or they'd realize that without charters and the "release valve" of Deal and Wilson, those of us EOTP would take our high incomes (but not high enough for 2+ kids @$44k/year private) to the suburbs.

Anonymous wrote:if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

I'd say some posters here are practically giddy about the prospect of Deal/Wilson becoming less diverse/majority white.

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Anonymous wrote:if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

This is a serious question - what about diversity EOTP where there currently is very little. Or I should say where currently very few white students are attending their neighborhood schools.

Folks do realize that most of the so called gentrifiers are not sending their kids to their neighborhood public schools, in part because of charters and in part because of the release valve of Deal and Wilson? And if you got rid of those options you'd actually have diverse public schools EOTP?

Hi, welcome to DCUM. I'm sorry, but although you may feel your question is serious, you have clearly not seriously considered it.

Anonymous wrote:if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

This is a serious question - what about diversity EOTP where there currently is very little. Or I should say where currently very few white students are attending their neighborhood schools.

Folks do realize that most of the so called gentrifiers are not sending their kids to their neighborhood public schools, in part because of charters and in part because of the release valve of Deal and Wilson? And if you got rid of those options you'd actually have diverse public schools EOTP?

if anyone thinks schools are segregated now, try removing OOB feeder rights and see what happens. Deal could retain some diversity with existing boundaries, but Hardy would become all white

But of course most people on this forum don't care about diversity

Anonymous wrote:What does the fire department say?

That's one way to fix it for sure....

Anonymous wrote:The current 8th grade at Deal has over 550 students. next year, Wilson’s 9th grade class is going to be the largest the school has ever had. It’s unsustainable. And yes, the quality of education is already greatly effected.

Absolutely true. For example, schools apparently aren't properly teaching the difference between affect and effect.

If you don’t like it you can apply to another school via the lottery (how people in the rest of the city respond if they don’t like their IB school), apply to private school or move.


^ yup

Anonymous wrote:I intend to stay away if possible. I don’t need that size for my kid who will be in sixth in a couple years. I want the opportunities but not the size.

Unless/until you go and tour the school, understand how they control class size through the team approach, the role of the vice principals, and generally just how the place works, you sound absolutely ridiculous (like this thread).

I intend to stay away if possible. I don’t need that size for my kid who will be in sixth in a couple years. I want the opportunities but not the size.

Stop complaining about this.

Everyone knows it is over-enrolled. It has been for a while and probably was when most of you purchased your homes or had your children.

It isn’t going to be addressed - aside from portables - until the next boundary review, which is 5 years away. That’s well before the projection mentioned in the master facilities plan takes effect.

If you don’t like it you can apply to another school via the lottery (how people in the rest of the city respond if they don’t like their IB school), apply to private school or move.

I almost think this topic continues to be posted by someone on a Russian troll farm. It certainly brings out every nasty, divisive instinct of people in this city, and isn’t it funny how no one ever says that their house or ES should be rezobed. It is always someone else.

The current 8th grade at Deal has over 550 students. next year, Wilson’s 9th grade class is going to be the largest the school has ever had. It’s unsustainable. And yes, the quality of education is already greatly effected.

What does the fire department say?