Anonymous wrote:When men who have trouble attracting women come in with complaints similar to the one in the thread you’re obliquely referring to, they get lit up like a Christmas tree, so the answer is clearly yes.

Yes, I do advise they try to date women they may not find initially attractive. Because some guys are trying to find women that are way beyond their attractiveness level. And then they start to get angry and bitter towards women they find attractive but who aren't interested in them.

And women AND men who try to only date people they find irresistibly hot both will typically find themselves single unless they are equally as hot to others.

I'm female and the best thing I did was say yes to dating a few guys who were shorter than me. One turned out to be the most wonderful man I even met.

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Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

If so, they can’t agree what that 10% is!

Women have wildly different things that they find attractive. If you think women only like the same handful of physical traits (AKA a Chad), then you are an incel or at least an incel apologist.

Disagree. I've been out of the dating pool for a long time now, so maybe things have changed. But, when I was in college, it was generally unusual for women to make the approach on a guy. However, when it did happen, it was always the same handful of guys who got approached by women. It wasn't like the women bold enough to approach were randomly approaching different guys because women are oh-so-varied in what they find attractive.

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

bingo.

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Anonymous wrote:Men are attracted to a very high percentage of reasonably healthy (i.e. not obese), age approprriate women. They are actually shockingly unpicky. You never hear single men complain about being single due to lack of appealing options. Single men are either single because they enjoy playing the field or because they can’t find any women AT ALL who will date them.

Men are unpicky about who they'll bang. They are (and should be) much more picky about who they'll commit to.

I often hear single men complaining about the lack of appealing options for long-term relationships.

Fair enough, but does "lack of appealing options" extend to looks? As in they can't find someone they are attracted enough to to marry? Or is it more about the personal characteristics of the women?

Anonymous wrote:Men are attracted to a very high percentage of reasonably healthy (i.e. not obese), age approprriate women. They are actually shockingly unpicky. You never hear single men complain about being single due to lack of appealing options. Single men are either single because they enjoy playing the field or because they can’t find any women AT ALL who will date them.

Men are unpicky about who they'll bang. They are (and should be) much more picky about who they'll commit to.

I often hear single men complaining about the lack of appealing options for long-term relationships.

Anonymous wrote:Guys suggest to each other to date pretty much any woman that walks by who isn’t fat.

No they don't. They might suggest a pump and dump, but not dating her.

Your premise is incorrect.... and I know plenty of single, never married, attractive women in their late 40s and 50s to prove it.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but it’s just different. Men seek out beauty and women who are younger than they are. Looks matter to some women up to a point, but when it gets to marrying time, a balding, four eyed man with a big wallet will do. Way of the world. Just look around the DC area—chock full of ugly guys with reasonably attractive women.

And nevertheless we settle for who is available.

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Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Yeah, I don't buy that women are more critical of men's looks than vice-versa. I've heard men criticizing beautiful Hollywood actresses for being unattractive. Not just, oh, she's not my type, but she's ugly, a horse-face, too skinny, too fat, etc. And plenty of ordinary-looking guys who apparently think that they should be dating supermodels, and who don't want to date the women they know who don't meet their ridiculous standards. And then they complain that women only want alpha male jerks or whatever the latest incel buzzword is.

Ugh, OP your thread is tiring

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Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Classic. Unless they have very good money, they are staring at many more years of frozen pizza dinners for one.

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Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Anonymous wrote:Do you tell them they should give the woman with frizzy hair, glasses, plainly dressed, and small chested a chance because she’s smitten with him and will make a kinder, and more loving mate than the fashionista who thinks she’s gods gift?

If you don’t why do you think it’s okay to tell women to date men they are not attracted to.?

Are you so steeped in misogyny that you do not believe women care about physical attraction?

Do you believe men are entitled to attention and dated just because?

Sick of this double standard.

- happily married to someone I’m attracted to.

Op you are very misogynistic.

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Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

If so, they can’t agree what that 10% is!

Women have wildly different things that they find attractive. If you think women only like the same handful of physical traits (AKA a Chad), then you are an incel or at least an incel apologist.

The OP was specifically talking about PHYSICAL attractiveness. The large majority of women are (physically) uninspired by the large majority of men. "that guy looks hot and I want to bang him" is definitely limited to the 10% Chads, and I am not an incel for pointing this out.

Sorry, but it’s just different. Men seek out beauty and women who are younger than they are. Looks matter to some women up to a point, but when it gets to marrying time, a balding, four eyed man with a big wallet will do. Way of the world. Just look around the DC area—chock full of ugly guys with reasonably attractive women.