I don't GAF if you want to get yourself a Wrangler. Heck, they look fun!

For the life of me, though, I cannot comprehend why any parent in their right mind would get one for their kid. Yet, Wranglers seem to be the car of choice for the spoiled teenager set this season.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/05/2018-jeep-wrangler-1-star-europe-ncap-crash-tests/

Don’t buy these primitive farm vehicles for your children because they look tough. Terrible front impact protection, terrible side impact protection, zero active safety features available (let alone standard).

But, but, but........macho......and cheaper than the Land Rover they want but can't afford. Am not defending rolling coffins. Am pointing out what motivates a large fraction of their buyers.

LMAO. No one driving a Wrangler would rather be in a Land Rover.

The Land Rover I looked at was slightly cheaper than the wangler. It was terrible to drive and I cannot even see driving on a dirt road with it. It was so boring too. The sun roof did not even open. For $50k plus they cannot give you an opening sun roof. And it hardly had any safety features till you got to the $100k models.

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ITT: People like the poster above try to compare four wheel drive off road vehicles with luxury station wagons.

This is why people don’t take you seriously. Next you’ll be telling me how trucks are shit because they get worse gas mileage than a Tesla.

I don't think anyone is arguing with your premise that the Wrangler is a capable off-road vehicle and objectively terrible at everything else.

What's a little troubling here is that a company like Fiat Chrysler has the engineering resources to make the car safe *and* capable off-road but they just choose not to...they know the image alone will sell the car.

A lot of companies do and choose not to. It’s not just Jeep. The explorer got bad ratings for 18 but Ford said oh well the 19s are coming out soon.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Wrangler and "$50k car" in the same sentence

Technically the one I want is $54.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Wrangler and "$50k car" in the same sentence

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ITT: People like the poster above try to compare four wheel drive off road vehicles with luxury station wagons.

This is why people don’t take you seriously. Next you’ll be telling me how trucks are shit because they get worse gas mileage than a Tesla.

I don't think anyone is arguing with your premise that the Wrangler is a capable off-road vehicle and objectively terrible at everything else.

What's a little troubling here is that a company like Fiat Chrysler has the engineering resources to make the car safe *and* capable off-road but they just choose not to...they know the image alone will sell the car.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/05/2018-jeep-wrangler-1-star-europe-ncap-crash-tests/

Don’t buy these primitive farm vehicles for your children because they look tough. Terrible front impact protection, terrible side impact protection, zero active safety features available (let alone standard).

But, but, but........macho......and cheaper than the Land Rover they want but can't afford. Am not defending rolling coffins. Am pointing out what motivates a large fraction of their buyers.

LMAO. No one driving a Wrangler would rather be in a Land Rover.

Almost any car older than 3 yrs will get a 1 based on this test.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Oh so wrong. Not spending $50K on a POS is how I keep money in the bank. I buy quality and keep my cars. I don't drive a minivan either. Enjoy your endless repairs and medical bills when you crash?

Quality is subjective. I keep ours till they are at the end of life, but anything older than two years isn't going to have the new safety features. We don't have medical bills - our insurance covers almost everything.

Top Gear UK did an informational piece on the EuroNCAP testing results a few years ago. They brought in 2, 3, 4, and 5-star cars that had been crashed in the test to show the difference. The difference was quite alarming. The 2 and 3-star cars had a lot of cabin deforming, doors bending, roof pillars crumpling, pedals and steering wheel crunching the driver's occupancy space. Whereas the 4 and 5-star cars had the engine blocks smashed to bits but the passenger cabin largely unaffected. Can't imagine how bad a 1-star car would look.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

Oh so wrong. Not spending $50K on a POS is how I keep money in the bank. I buy quality and keep my cars. I don't drive a minivan either. Enjoy your endless repairs and medical bills when you crash?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

You just do not have $50k to spend so you’d rather slam it than enjoy one. Enjoy your Honda minivan.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

How, they have no safety features. My 15 year old car has no cameras, no nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't driving one, why do you care?

Exactly. If you don't think they are safe, don't buy one.

P.S. -- How about all of those people on here who boast about driving a 15 year old car "until the wheels fall off." None of those cars have the safety features of the new cars. Are you as critical of them?

Because those 15 year old cars are safer than this POS Jeep!

But you die looking good.