If that's the report it doesn't address the question at all. We want to look at how ED students do based on the concentration of poverty at their schools. That's what research says matters.

Also, just looking at PreK vs. non-PreK is weird when APS PreK is largely only for ED families. The non-preK families likely all did PreK outside of APS. That's why they test better, and that's not surprising.

Plus this study is 10 years old.

PP again. I think this must be the study: https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Lo...s-Arlington-Public-Schools.pdf

That report is very interesting / basically in many of the scenarios Pre-K doesn't always make that much difference. As for Montessori vs VPI, I wonder if having some MC/UMC children in the classroom helps raise the scores for the ED students.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Has she ever provided this well documented research BECAUSE it doesn't seem like it is working for the schools or the crime rate.

DP. She said there is a study on the APS website. I poked around a little this morning, but it's a big website and I don't know where to look. If anyone knows what she's talking about, please post it. I'd be interested to read it, and may email her if I can't find it.

I do know of the Fairfax study that looks at economic segregation and tries to ID a tipping point. I can't imagine Fairfax doesn't also well-resource its schools, though I do know that class sizes tend to be bigger there.

PP again. I think this must be the study: https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Longitudinal-Analysis-of-Performance-of-Students-in-Prekindergarten-Programs-Arlington-Public-Schools.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Because Arlington gives those students what they need.

Oh, and because the overall end graduation rates and % of those students going on to college are so high. The ends justifies the means.

Do you remember roughly when she said it in the meeting? I'd like to hear the statement for myself.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still not entirely sure what is happening with the Cody families at Long Branch. I have a feeling they were trotted out as warm bodies to fill Fleet and they will quietly be allowed to stay wherever they are.

What are Cody families?

Cody families are active duty and DoD civilians who use a school-age program in the same building as the day care on Ft Myer. It has the same early start time the day care center/ preschool has (6am). It’s also heavily subsidized by the DoD so it provides dirt cheap child care for those lucky enough to get off the wait list and presumably then their younger siblings.

The families who attend Cody are separate from the active duty families who actually live in the Ft Myer housing. Unlike a lot of bigger military installations, very few families actually live on Ft Myer.

Going back years, kids who attend Cody and who also live in Arlington (anywhere, as long as it’s Arlington) were able to attend either Long Branch or Henry. This has created a loophole to “option” to one of those schools, even if they lived in a Drew or Barcroft zone (for instance).

I’m not sure if APS just “forgot” about this arrangement, but it created this group of kids they weren’t accounting for, but were providing 2 buses for. Not sure how that flew under the radar but there it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Because Arlington gives those students what they need.

Oh, and because the overall end graduation rates and % of those students going on to college are so high. The ends justifies the means.

Do you remember roughly when she said it in the meeting? I'd like to hear the statement for myself.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still not entirely sure what is happening with the Cody families at Long Branch. I have a feeling they were trotted out as warm bodies to fill Fleet and they will quietly be allowed to stay wherever they are.

What are Cody families?

Cody families are active duty and DoD civilians who use a school-age program in the same building as the day care on Ft Myer. It has the same early start time the day care center/ preschool has (6am). It’s also heavily subsidized by the DoD so it provides dirt cheap child care for those lucky enough to get off the wait list and presumably then their younger siblings.

The families who attend Cody are separate from the active duty families who actually live in the Ft Myer housing. Unlike a lot of bigger military installations, very few families actually live on Ft Myer.

Going back years, kids who attend Cody and who also live in Arlington (anywhere, as long as it’s Arlington) were able to attend either Long Branch or Henry. This has created a loophole to “option” to one of those schools, even if they lived in a Drew or Barcroft zone (for instance).

I’m not sure if APS just “forgot” about this arrangement, but it created this group of kids they weren’t accounting for, but were providing 2 buses for. Not sure how that flew under the radar but there it is.

Yes, if she is making the claim the data don't apply here she needs to show us the numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Has she ever provided this well documented research BECAUSE it doesn't seem like it is working for the schools or the crime rate.

DP. She said there is a study on the APS website. I poked around a little this morning, but it's a big website and I don't know where to look. If anyone knows what she's talking about, please post it. I'd be interested to read it, and may email her if I can't find it.

I do know of the Fairfax study that looks at economic segregation and tries to ID a tipping point. I can't imagine Fairfax doesn't also well-resource its schools, though I do know that class sizes tend to be bigger there.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Has she ever provided this well documented research BECAUSE it doesn't seem like it is working for the schools or the crime rate.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still not entirely sure what is happening with the Cody families at Long Branch. I have a feeling they were trotted out as warm bodies to fill Fleet and they will quietly be allowed to stay wherever they are.

Probably. It was all that anyone could pull out of their you know what after the admitted Fleet data mistake. Even if they do go there, prioritizing them over current Henry families is a bold move considering many of them are DOD civilians and not even active duty.

It wasn’t bold, it was the easy way out. They’re not going where you send them anyway, certainly not to Drew. They couldn’t send only some CH families or it looks even worse, so they send mostly all of them and pretend like there are those other people that sort of fill their old school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Because Arlington gives those students what they need.

Oh, and because the overall end graduation rates and % of those students going on to college are so high. The ends justifies the means.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Because Arlington gives those students what they need.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.

As a direct quote, no. In essence? Yes. She basically said well-documented research that shows economic segregation is bad doesn't apply in Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, NvD says that "separate but equal" works in Arlington because we are special and we have so many resources.

Is this for real? I haven’t watched the video because I’m so sick of this process, but if she legit said that, it’s horrifying.