Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster already feeds to Oyster Adams Middle school in Dupont Circle Kalorama area. So you would want to shift their feeder for high school to Rosevelt, which makes excellent sense to me.
Parents may flip out.
Why not feed oyster to McFarland and free up space at Oyster Adams?
Well if they have room at McFarland, I don't know. But Cardozo is way closer, and they could build a decent language program there. Nice campus but hard to divert those going Wilson to a school that is basically moving kids up each year even though they don't pass. I cannot imagine DCPS even trying to make that proposal go down, even though it makes sense in many ways and more sense than McFarland.
And what would you do with the Oyster Adams building? A mini high school for the neighborhood?
A mini magnet? but a true test in magnet? or an expanded oyster elementary? Cardozo isn't happening, for anyone with a choice. I am more likely to take my chances on McFarland
Same on Cardozo. Cute idea about the mini magnet, but DCPS is already hoping to expand Banneker, and that is not the far from the Oyster Adams site, so I cannot imagine putting yet another application high school in that area of the city.
Keeping the middle school as is, but removing its Wilson feeds sounds like a decent start. This would reduce enrollment at Wilson by what? 30?
what is Oyster adams became a middle school magnet. Or even better a middle school dual language magnet? test in for the kids who come up the DCPS feeder system and also through the charter sysyem who may not want DCI. DC in general is capable of producing some high achieving bilingual english/spanish speaking students. Kids who ready to tackle all subjects in both languages at grade level or higher in 6th grade. Is there a magnet like this in the country?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster already feeds to Oyster Adams Middle school in Dupont Circle Kalorama area. So you would want to shift their feeder for high school to Rosevelt, which makes excellent sense to me.
Parents may flip out.
Why not feed oyster to McFarland and free up space at Oyster Adams?
Well if they have room at McFarland, I don't know. But Cardozo is way closer, and they could build a decent language program there. Nice campus but hard to divert those going Wilson to a school that is basically moving kids up each year even though they don't pass. I cannot imagine DCPS even trying to make that proposal go down, even though it makes sense in many ways and more sense than McFarland.
And what would you do with the Oyster Adams building? A mini high school for the neighborhood?
A mini magnet? but a true test in magnet? or an expanded oyster elementary? Cardozo isn't happening, for anyone with a choice. I am more likely to take my chances on McFarland
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could be better informed with information on residences of students at Ward 3's deal MS and Wilson HS. If you could tell me that Ward 1 and 4 students together are a large part of the Wilson feeder pattern, it would make me believe the solutions belong in Wards 1 and 4. If your issue is that Wilson is full of students who started in Ward 3 elementaries from out-of-boundary from Ward 7 and 8 and moved up through feeder rights, that's a different problem and solution set.
This map might help, there are some other resources also ont he DME website that will answer this question.
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1257681
Based on that (https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/SY2016-17%20Public%20School%20Enrollment%20by%20Neighborhood.xlsx), this is where the kids are from at Wilson:
Cluster 10 Hawthorne, Barnaby Woods, Chevy Chase 217
Cluster 2 Columbia Heights, Mt. Pleasant, Pleasant Plains, Park View 193
Cluster 11 Friendship Heights, American University Park, Tenleytown 182
Cluster 18 Brightwood Park, Crestwood, Petworth 157
Cluster 12 North Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, Van Ness 113
Cluster 14 Cathedral Heights, McLean Gardens, Glover Park 102
Cluster 17 Takoma, Brightwood, Manor Park 79
Cluster 13 Spring Valley, Palisades, Wesley Heights, Foxhall Crescent, Foxhall Village, Georgetown Reservoir 64
Cluster 16 Colonial Village, Shepherd Park, North Portal Estates 64
Cluster 15 Cleveland Park, Woodley Park, Massachusetts Avenue Heights, Woodland-Normanstone Terrace 60
Cluster 1 Kalorama Heights, Adams Morgan, Lanier Heights 48
Cluster 19 Lamont Riggs, Queens Chapel, Fort Totten, Pleasant Hill 40
Cluster 39 Congress Heights, Bellevue, Washington Highlands 35
Cluster 21 Edgewood, Bloomingdale, Truxton Circle, Eckington 33
Cluster 9 Southwest Employment Area, Southwest/Waterfront, Fort McNair, Buzzard Point 28
Cluster 7 Shaw, Logan Circle 25
Cluster 34 Twining, Fairlawn, Randle Highlands, Penn Branch, Fort Davis Park, Fort Dupont 25
Cluster 20 North Michigan Park, Michigan Park, University Heights 22
Cluster 22 Brookland, Brentwood, Langdon 19
Cluster 4 Georgetown, Burleith/Hillandale 18
Cluster 23 Ivy City, Arboretum, Trinidad, Carver Langston 18
Cluster 33 Capitol View, Marshall Heights, Benning Heights 18
Cluster 24 Woodridge, Fort Lincoln, Gateway 17
Cluster 25 Union Station, Stanton Park, Kingman Park 17
Cluster 6 Dupont Circle, Connecticut Avenue/K Street 16
Cluster 26 Capitol Hill, Lincoln Park 16
Cluster 31 Deanwood, Burrville, Grant Park, Lincoln Heights, Fairmont Heights 16
Cluster 35 Fairfax Village, Naylor Gardens, Hillcrest, Summit Park 16
Cluster 8 Downtown, Chinatown, Penn Quarters, Mount Vernon Square, North Capitol Street 13
Cluster 38 Douglas, Shipley Terrace 13
Cluster 32 River Terrace, Benning, Greenway, Dupont Park 10
based on this list, if proximity is a factor, you'd hope to get families to choose Cardozo, CHEC, Coolidge and ESPECIALLY Roosevelt as a solution to Wilson crowding.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster already feeds to Oyster Adams Middle school in Dupont Circle Kalorama area. So you would want to shift their feeder for high school to Rosevelt, which makes excellent sense to me.
Parents may flip out.
Why not feed oyster to McFarland and free up space at Oyster Adams?
Well if they have room at McFarland, I don't know. But Cardozo is way closer, and they could build a decent language program there. Nice campus but hard to divert those going Wilson to a school that is basically moving kids up each year even though they don't pass. I cannot imagine DCPS even trying to make that proposal go down, even though it makes sense in many ways and more sense than McFarland.
And what would you do with the Oyster Adams building? A mini high school for the neighborhood?
A mini magnet? but a true test in magnet? or an expanded oyster elementary? Cardozo isn't happening, for anyone with a choice. I am more likely to take my chances on McFarland
Same on Cardozo. Cute idea about the mini magnet, but DCPS is already hoping to expand Banneker, and that is not the far from the Oyster Adams site, so I cannot imagine putting yet another application high school in that area of the city.
Keeping the middle school as is, but removing its Wilson feeds sounds like a decent start. This would reduce enrollment at Wilson by what? 30?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster-Adams already includes a middle school. The middle school was a big and successful project. Undoing that a few years after all that effort is not going to happen. Also, Oyster-Adams already feeds into Roosevelt. Sutdents have a right to go to either Wilson or Roosevelt (if they want to continue dual language). Oyster-Adams students spread out to a lot of different high schools. Not that many go to Wilson.
I cannot see a number for the amount of kids that go to Wilson from Oyster Adams. But getting rid of the Wilson feed seems like a good idea, especially if not that many even go to Wilson. And if the elementary school kids can choose Deal or Oyster Adams, they should switch that choice to Cardozo or Oyster Adams.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster already feeds to Oyster Adams Middle school in Dupont Circle Kalorama area. So you would want to shift their feeder for high school to Rosevelt, which makes excellent sense to me.
Parents may flip out.
Why not feed oyster to McFarland and free up space at Oyster Adams?
Well if they have room at McFarland, I don't know. But Cardozo is way closer, and they could build a decent language program there. Nice campus but hard to divert those going Wilson to a school that is basically moving kids up each year even though they don't pass. I cannot imagine DCPS even trying to make that proposal go down, even though it makes sense in many ways and more sense than McFarland.
And what would you do with the Oyster Adams building? A mini high school for the neighborhood?
A mini magnet? but a true test in magnet? or an expanded oyster elementary? Cardozo isn't happening, for anyone with a choice. I am more likely to take my chances on McFarland
Anonymous wrote:Oyster-Adams already includes a middle school. The middle school was a big and successful project. Undoing that a few years after all that effort is not going to happen. Also, Oyster-Adams already feeds into Roosevelt. Sutdents have a right to go to either Wilson or Roosevelt (if they want to continue dual language). Oyster-Adams students spread out to a lot of different high schools. Not that many go to Wilson.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oyster already feeds to Oyster Adams Middle school in Dupont Circle Kalorama area. So you would want to shift their feeder for high school to Rosevelt, which makes excellent sense to me.
Parents may flip out.
Why not feed oyster to McFarland and free up space at Oyster Adams?
Well if they have room at McFarland, I don't know. But Cardozo is way closer, and they could build a decent language program there. Nice campus but hard to divert those going Wilson to a school that is basically moving kids up each year even though they don't pass. I cannot imagine DCPS even trying to make that proposal go down, even though it makes sense in many ways and more sense than McFarland.
And what would you do with the Oyster Adams building? A mini high school for the neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could be better informed with information on residences of students at Ward 3's deal MS and Wilson HS. If you could tell me that Ward 1 and 4 students together are a large part of the Wilson feeder pattern, it would make me believe the solutions belong in Wards 1 and 4. If your issue is that Wilson is full of students who started in Ward 3 elementaries from out-of-boundary from Ward 7 and 8 and moved up through feeder rights, that's a different problem and solution set.
This map might help, there are some other resources also ont he DME website that will answer this question.
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1257681
Based on that (https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/SY2016-17%20Public%20School%20Enrollment%20by%20Neighborhood.xlsx), this is where the kids are from at Wilson:
Cluster 10 Hawthorne, Barnaby Woods, Chevy Chase 217
Cluster 2 Columbia Heights, Mt. Pleasant, Pleasant Plains, Park View 193
Cluster 11 Friendship Heights, American University Park, Tenleytown 182
Cluster 18 Brightwood Park, Crestwood, Petworth 157
Cluster 12 North Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, Van Ness 113
Cluster 14 Cathedral Heights, McLean Gardens, Glover Park 102
Cluster 17 Takoma, Brightwood, Manor Park 79
Cluster 13 Spring Valley, Palisades, Wesley Heights, Foxhall Crescent, Foxhall Village, Georgetown Reservoir 64
Cluster 16 Colonial Village, Shepherd Park, North Portal Estates 64
Cluster 15 Cleveland Park, Woodley Park, Massachusetts Avenue Heights, Woodland-Normanstone Terrace 60
Cluster 1 Kalorama Heights, Adams Morgan, Lanier Heights 48
Cluster 19 Lamont Riggs, Queens Chapel, Fort Totten, Pleasant Hill 40
Cluster 39 Congress Heights, Bellevue, Washington Highlands 35
Cluster 21 Edgewood, Bloomingdale, Truxton Circle, Eckington 33
Cluster 9 Southwest Employment Area, Southwest/Waterfront, Fort McNair, Buzzard Point 28
Cluster 7 Shaw, Logan Circle 25
Cluster 34 Twining, Fairlawn, Randle Highlands, Penn Branch, Fort Davis Park, Fort Dupont 25
Cluster 20 North Michigan Park, Michigan Park, University Heights 22
Cluster 22 Brookland, Brentwood, Langdon 19
Cluster 4 Georgetown, Burleith/Hillandale 18
Cluster 23 Ivy City, Arboretum, Trinidad, Carver Langston 18
Cluster 33 Capitol View, Marshall Heights, Benning Heights 18
Cluster 24 Woodridge, Fort Lincoln, Gateway 17
Cluster 25 Union Station, Stanton Park, Kingman Park 17
Cluster 6 Dupont Circle, Connecticut Avenue/K Street 16
Cluster 26 Capitol Hill, Lincoln Park 16
Cluster 31 Deanwood, Burrville, Grant Park, Lincoln Heights, Fairmont Heights 16
Cluster 35 Fairfax Village, Naylor Gardens, Hillcrest, Summit Park 16
Cluster 8 Downtown, Chinatown, Penn Quarters, Mount Vernon Square, North Capitol Street 13
Cluster 38 Douglas, Shipley Terrace 13
Cluster 32 River Terrace, Benning, Greenway, Dupont Park 10
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could be better informed with information on residences of students at Ward 3's deal MS and Wilson HS. If you could tell me that Ward 1 and 4 students together are a large part of the Wilson feeder pattern, it would make me believe the solutions belong in Wards 1 and 4. If your issue is that Wilson is full of students who started in Ward 3 elementaries from out-of-boundary from Ward 7 and 8 and moved up through feeder rights, that's a different problem and solution set.
This map might help, there are some other resources also ont he DME website that will answer this question.
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1257681
Based on that (https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/SY2016-17%20Public%20School%20Enrollment%20by%20Neighborhood.xlsx), this is where the kids are from at Wilson:
Cluster 10 Hawthorne, Barnaby Woods, Chevy Chase 217
Cluster 2 Columbia Heights, Mt. Pleasant, Pleasant Plains, Park View 193
Cluster 11 Friendship Heights, American University Park, Tenleytown 182
Cluster 18 Brightwood Park, Crestwood, Petworth 157
Cluster 12 North Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, Van Ness 113
Cluster 14 Cathedral Heights, McLean Gardens, Glover Park 102
Cluster 17 Takoma, Brightwood, Manor Park 79
Cluster 13 Spring Valley, Palisades, Wesley Heights, Foxhall Crescent, Foxhall Village, Georgetown Reservoir 64
Cluster 16 Colonial Village, Shepherd Park, North Portal Estates 64
Cluster 15 Cleveland Park, Woodley Park, Massachusetts Avenue Heights, Woodland-Normanstone Terrace 60
Cluster 1 Kalorama Heights, Adams Morgan, Lanier Heights 48
Cluster 19 Lamont Riggs, Queens Chapel, Fort Totten, Pleasant Hill 40
Cluster 39 Congress Heights, Bellevue, Washington Highlands 35
Cluster 21 Edgewood, Bloomingdale, Truxton Circle, Eckington 33
Cluster 9 Southwest Employment Area, Southwest/Waterfront, Fort McNair, Buzzard Point 28
Cluster 7 Shaw, Logan Circle 25
Cluster 34 Twining, Fairlawn, Randle Highlands, Penn Branch, Fort Davis Park, Fort Dupont 25
Cluster 20 North Michigan Park, Michigan Park, University Heights 22
Cluster 22 Brookland, Brentwood, Langdon 19
Cluster 4 Georgetown, Burleith/Hillandale 18
Cluster 23 Ivy City, Arboretum, Trinidad, Carver Langston 18
Cluster 33 Capitol View, Marshall Heights, Benning Heights 18
Cluster 24 Woodridge, Fort Lincoln, Gateway 17
Cluster 25 Union Station, Stanton Park, Kingman Park 17
Cluster 6 Dupont Circle, Connecticut Avenue/K Street 16
Cluster 26 Capitol Hill, Lincoln Park 16
Cluster 31 Deanwood, Burrville, Grant Park, Lincoln Heights, Fairmont Heights 16
Cluster 35 Fairfax Village, Naylor Gardens, Hillcrest, Summit Park 16
Cluster 8 Downtown, Chinatown, Penn Quarters, Mount Vernon Square, North Capitol Street 13
Cluster 38 Douglas, Shipley Terrace 13
Cluster 32 River Terrace, Benning, Greenway, Dupont Park 10
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who is this guy who keeps talking about Lafayette? And why Lafayette needs to stop getting access to Deal? It seems hard to make something like that workable because of cross-Park transportation limitations and Lafayette's size.
DP but the size is the selling point. If that many high-SES kids shift to a different feeder, it immediately creates a viable second pyramid. I think that PP brought it up to point out the fact that Ward 4 kids are not the only ones attending from Deal/Wilson by right from a different ward (while Ward 1 kids are never criticized as interlopers for the same thing), but it's an interesting idea if the goal is really to get another viable DCPS option for more families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could be better informed with information on residences of students at Ward 3's deal MS and Wilson HS. If you could tell me that Ward 1 and 4 students together are a large part of the Wilson feeder pattern, it would make me believe the solutions belong in Wards 1 and 4. If your issue is that Wilson is full of students who started in Ward 3 elementaries from out-of-boundary from Ward 7 and 8 and moved up through feeder rights, that's a different problem and solution set.
This map might help, there are some other resources also ont he DME website that will answer this question.
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1257681
Anonymous wrote:Data on student residence by Ward: http://dccouncil.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/budget_responses/Attachment_Q5_-_StudentResidenceByWard.pdf
Wilson HS
Ward 1 15.43%
Ward 2 4.22%
Ward 3 24.87%
Ward 4 24.05%
Ward 5 10.21%
Ward 6 9.85%
Ward 7 6.10%
Ward 8 5.28%
So, loosely, of about 1750-1800 enrollment, 425-450 are from Ward 4 and 275-300 are from Ward 1.
And FYI that is about on par with Roosevelt's current enrollment.
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this discussion could be better informed with information on residences of students at Ward 3's deal MS and Wilson HS. If you could tell me that Ward 1 and 4 students together are a large part of the Wilson feeder pattern, it would make me believe the solutions belong in Wards 1 and 4. If your issue is that Wilson is full of students who started in Ward 3 elementaries from out-of-boundary from Ward 7 and 8 and moved up through feeder rights, that's a different problem and solution set.