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Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.

Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.

Bullshit

Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.

Don’t offer it as part of welfare. That’s f-ed up.

But it should be an option — along with good healthcare — for all women.

Anonymous wrote:She shouldn’t have had sex before marriage.

Only give bj’s and use a vibrator.

No one cares what the religious nutters think. GFY

She shouldn’t have had sex before marriage.

Only give bj’s and use a vibrator.

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Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.

Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.

Bullshit

Many States offered Norplan as part of welfare benefits. They were sued, so, you’re wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.

Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.

Bullshit

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.

Anytime someone pushes for free long term contraception, they’re called racist and accused of wanting to steralize minorities.

Anonymous wrote:No one is "kicking"---they are pointing out that she made a number of bad decisions that led her to the situation she is in today. That is no one's fault but her own. The best thing she could do right now for herself and her baby is to try to find an open adoption or foster placement for him for 2 to 3 years while she goes back to school/training to get certified in some type of trade or skill that will enable her to support both herself and him over the long term. Is that an optimal situation? No---but it would be the best thing she could do for herself and her baby in the long term. Working as a Starbucks barista is not a viable career choice. But I bet Alyson winds up getting pregnant again within the next 2 to 3 years, without having gained further job skills, and will elect to continue that pregnancy as well because little Atlas needs a sibling. Short term thinking got her into her predicament and it will keep her there unless she learns to make tough choices.

A securely attached toddler would be better off without his mother, who loves him immensely and gives every impression of being a good parent, so she can pursue a higher paying job? Um no, what makes sense is to not rip the toddler's life apart and build a social safety net that isn't so full of holes.

But we won't. Because this is the USA in 2018 and we don't want to. Here's another article I saw recently about new work requirements for Arkansas Medicaid. Surprise, they are basically rigged to throw the working poor off the benefit.

http://arknews.org/index.php/2018/11/20/when-arkansas-works-doesnt/

Lots of good book referenced in the article for those interested in learning more about the intentional dismantling of the US middle class. I know blogs like Frugal Woods and Mr. Money Moustache, hell even Dave Ramsey are annoying as hell in many ways, but US families would be better off embracing alternative lifestyles that prioritize frugality and independent wealth building if they have a chance.

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Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

+10000

This is a great start to solving this problem. None of the pro-birthers are pushing for this though - which makes sense since they aren’t trying to solve any problems. They just want to judge and punish people, like heartless twiats.

Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

I get the same feeling. I have no idea what should happen now, although offering free long-term contraception to anyone under 25 is a good start. I'd be okay with incentivizing it, too. I think publishing stories like this serves a valuable purpose, because there are a lot of people out there who seriously underestimate how difficult it is to raise kids when you're low-income.

She's struggling to get ahead because of a confluences of factors--some out of her control and other completely within her control.

Out of her control:

1. The value of labor (especially unskilled) has been getting hammered on both the demand and supply side of the equation. As the labor pool expanded (supply side), the value of labor went down. As employers wanted more and more specialized skills (demand side), the value of unskilled labor went down. The above poster is absolutely right many anti-abortion people are nowhere to be found when it comes to helping this woman, but many of the people who want a safety net to help this woman are unwilling to consider reducing the supply of unskilled labor in this country by enforcing immigration laws. The single best thing we could do for unskilled labor is reduce the supply of unskilled labor.

2. Access to the social safety net has been made unnecessarily hard in some respects.

3. Government has flooded the market with college degrees at all levels and eroded the value of a degree (especially her associate's degree).

4. The education machine has emphasized college to her for decades but then let her get a relatively low-demand degree in family and consumer sciences. Even a simple realignment to a four-year education degree would have set her up much better.

In her control:

1. Getting pregnant. She minimized the risk of it, but she didn't eliminate the risk.

2. Choosing the early childhood degree of whatever UCF calls it.

3. Leaving the father behind in Kentucky. There is no mention of abuse in the article, so going by what we have, we know that (a) she wanted to work and (b) she wasn't happy in Kentucky. For (a), even if her net pay wasn't much at first, working and gaining new skills would have been worth it in the long run. For (b), leaving a stable home for her son that provided food, shelter, and access to two parents seems like a lot to give up in order to pursue her happiness. I'm not suggesting that home was ideal for her, but it seems from the outside looking in that it was absolutely better for her and her son than the circumstances she find's herself in currently. Not to mention, she probably would have been in a better position to improve her education had she stayed with the father.

4. It doesn't seem she's done anything to pursue child support from the father.

Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

Anonymous wrote:I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

Yup. Prol life means "punish women for having sex"

"When she went to apply for that subsidized child care, however, she learned that before you could even qualify, the state required two consecutive pay stubs to prove you worked at least 20 hours a week. Which meant that in order to work, she needed child care, but in order to get child care, she needed to work. Essentially, she was screwed."

And she had to inadvertently get CPS involved to get a child care subsidy.


"Not that government assistance, as it’s currently administered, offers much of a leg up anyway. Bill Clinton’s welfare reform of the Nineties — when work requirements were affixed to many forms of cash assistance — was meant to incentivize work, doing away with Ronald Reagan’s supposed “welfare queens.” Yet that assumed work to be the antidote to poverty when, for many, it isn’t. More than half of the nondisabled working-age adults living in poverty are actually employed."

Reminds me of another article about a woman who made too much for welfare as a home health care aide but couldn't afford housing and was stuck living in cheap motels with her children.

I somehow get a feeling that many who say she made a bunch of poor decisions also would be against an abortion.

Sticking with that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. And that is the truth for a lot of families out there. I would even say that about my BIL’s kids.

But how does any of this judgment of how she got here help now? It’s counterproductive.

Anonymous wrote:I have to know how Allyson manages to accidentally get pregnant at all during a time in which birth control pills, condoms, spermicidal lube, and Plan B is all available at the nearest pharmacy?

Allyson seems like the type of person who will find herself woefully unprepared for anything, be it preventing a pregnancy or the aftermath of a natural disaster.

This isn't about being pregnant.... this is about being Allyson.

Fifty percent of pregnancies are unplanned/accidental. Are you unaware of reality?