Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 22:09     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American


If Klinsmann "mess" disqualifies all foreign coaches, then Arena/Sarachan mess certainly disqualifies all American coaches, especially those with MLS background. I finally understand why they have not been able to find and hire a well-qualified coach for over a year.


Who said "disqualified?" The word was reluctance. Better to hire the devil you know than one that you don't. Klinsmann served the platter to Arena that lost us qualification in the last WC. Not that Arena deserves praise, but he inherited that disaster. Say what you want about Sarachan, but at least the player rotation is much improved and being experimented with. The next person in line needs to solidify a core and mate it with strategy and tactics.


Tata Martino and JCO have both coached in MLS. They fit the definition of "the devil you know," especially JCO, who has done his share of humiliating the USMNT in this down period, and also has been tested against top-level international competition, such as Germany and Brazil in the last World Cup. That neither man was even interviewed says a lot about US Soccer's phony "search."

BTW, Klinsmann wasn't a great fit for the USMNT, but the biggest "mess" he left was telling the truth about MLS and how it sucks at developing US players. That, more than anything else, was why he was fired. And the reason we have so many great young players now like Weston McKennie is because Klinsmann opened the doors of the Bundesliga to them.

Anyway, it looks like we'll get to see if whatever strategy and tactics Berhalter comes up with can hold its own against players whose quality is more like Gonzalo Higuain's than his older brother's.



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Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 21:55     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American


If Klinsmann "mess" disqualifies all foreign coaches, then Arena/Sarachan mess certainly disqualifies all American coaches, especially those with MLS background. I finally understand why they have not been able to find and hire a well-qualified coach for over a year.


Who said "disqualified?" The word was reluctance. Better to hire the devil you know than one that you don't. Klinsmann served the platter to Arena that lost us qualification in the last WC. Not that Arena deserves praise, but he inherited that disaster. Say what you want about Sarachan, but at least the player rotation is much improved and being experimented with. The next person in line needs to solidify a core and mate it with strategy and tactics.


Tata Martino and JCO have both coached in MLS. They fit the definition of "the devil you know," especially JCO, who has done his share of humiliating the USMNT in this down period, and also has been tested against top-level international competition, such as Germany and Brazil in the last World Cup. That neither man was even interviewed says a lot about US Soccer's phony "search."

BTW, Klinsmann wasn't a great fit for the USMNT, but the biggest "mess" he left was telling the truth about MLS and how it sucks at developing US players. That, more than anything else, was why he was fired. And the reason we have so many great young players now like Weston McKennie is because Klinsmann opened the doors of the Bundesliga to them.

Anyway, it looks like we'll get to see if whatever strategy and tactics Berhalter comes up with can hold its own against players whose quality is more like Gonzalo Higuain's than his older brother's.

Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 13:43     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American


If Klinsmann "mess" disqualifies all foreign coaches, then Arena/Sarachan mess certainly disqualifies all American coaches, especially those with MLS background. I finally understand why they have not been able to find and hire a well-qualified coach for over a year.


Who said "disqualified?" The word was reluctance. Better to hire the devil you know than one that you don't. Klinsmann served the platter to Arena that lost us qualification in the last WC. Not that Arena deserves praise, but he inherited that disaster. Say what you want about Sarachan, but at least the player rotation is much improved and being experimented with. The next person in line needs to solidify a core and mate it with strategy and tactics.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 13:42     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American


If Klinsmann "mess" disqualifies all foreign coaches, then Arena/Sarachan mess certainly disqualifies all American coaches, especially those with MLS background. I finally understand why they have not been able to find and hire a well-qualified coach for over a year.


Who said "disqualified?" The word was reluctance. Better to hire the devil you know than one that you don't. Klinsmann served the platter to Arena that lost us qualification in the last WC. Not that Arena deserves praise, but he inherited that disaster. Say what you want about Sarachan, but at least the player rotation is much improved and being experimented with. The next person in line needs to solidify a core and mate it with strategy and tactics.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 12:43     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American


If Klinsmann "mess" disqualifies all foreign coaches, then Arena/Sarachan mess certainly disqualifies all American coaches, especially those with MLS background. I finally understand why they have not been able to find and hire a well-qualified coach for over a year.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 07:32     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Agree Ramos would be a good option. If Berkhalter is the choice and doesn’t pan out, Ramos will be next man up. I can understand their reluctance to go to a foreign coach after the Klinsmann mess. Maybe if that has worked out better they wouldn’t be so set on an American
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2018 07:29     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it is Berkhalter, I don't believe he is DOA as a coach. He's done well in MLS and has experience overseas. Pulisic is still playing for the US internationally. These young players should play overseas where they get the best competition available. No reason to change that.

I'm curious to see if it is Berkhalter and also to see the player reaction and how play and national player recruitment/retention changes. I don't see why we need to pre-judge a decision that hasn't been announced.


What has he done to earn the national team job? He is barely above 500 in a mediocre league like MLS. Arena has a better winning percentage in the same league and was considered to be the best MLS coach, when he took the national team job. We all know how it turned out.


Nothing. This is purely a political choice. He has never proven himself against serious international competition.


If the USSF wants to say local, they should go with Tab Ramos, who has done great coaching the U20 team. I’d rather go international as well, but if they feel they have to go with an American, he’s a much better choice.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 21:52     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

We’ve been waiting for over a year and they haven’t even hired a coach. So after all this waiting and an underwhelming hire, we just have to wait some more? Great
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 21:42     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hiring a foreigner is an admission that we, as americans, suck.


That’s idiotic. Great soccer countries hire foreigners all the time.


Great soccer countries hire good coaches.


True, but the United States lacks world class coaches so they may have to go outside the country if they want quality.


If you want a world-class coach you have to go where they are: Europe and South America. Lots of big NTs have foreign coaches, including Belgium, which currently is ranked #1. JCO is Colombian. Do you think Mexico cared about that when they hired him?


True. This is a false pride that condemns us to mediocrity.


LOL why don't we wait and see what happens?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 21:41     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hiring a foreigner is an admission that we, as americans, suck.


That’s idiotic. Great soccer countries hire foreigners all the time.


Great soccer countries hire good coaches.


True, but the United States lacks world class coaches so they may have to go outside the country if they want quality.


If you want a world-class coach you have to go where they are: Europe and South America. Lots of big NTs have foreign coaches, including Belgium, which currently is ranked #1. JCO is Colombian. Do you think Mexico cared about that when they hired him?


True. This is a false pride that condemns us to mediocrity.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 18:50     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hiring a foreigner is an admission that we, as americans, suck.


That’s idiotic. Great soccer countries hire foreigners all the time.


Great soccer countries hire good coaches.


True, but the United States lacks world class coaches so they may have to go outside the country if they want quality.


If you want a world-class coach you have to go where they are: Europe and South America. Lots of big NTs have foreign coaches, including Belgium, which currently is ranked #1. JCO is Colombian. Do you think Mexico cared about that when they hired him?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 18:39     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it is Berkhalter, I don't believe he is DOA as a coach. He's done well in MLS and has experience overseas. Pulisic is still playing for the US internationally. These young players should play overseas where they get the best competition available. No reason to change that.

I'm curious to see if it is Berkhalter and also to see the player reaction and how play and national player recruitment/retention changes. I don't see why we need to pre-judge a decision that hasn't been announced.


What has he done to earn the national team job? He is barely above 500 in a mediocre league like MLS. Arena has a better winning percentage in the same league and was considered to be the best MLS coach, when he took the national team job. We all know how it turned out.


Nothing. This is purely a political choice. He has never proven himself against serious international competition.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 14:36     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

Anonymous wrote:If it is Berkhalter, I don't believe he is DOA as a coach. He's done well in MLS and has experience overseas. Pulisic is still playing for the US internationally. These young players should play overseas where they get the best competition available. No reason to change that.

I'm curious to see if it is Berkhalter and also to see the player reaction and how play and national player recruitment/retention changes. I don't see why we need to pre-judge a decision that hasn't been announced.


What has he done to earn the national team job? He is barely above 500 in a mediocre league like MLS. Arena has a better winning percentage in the same league and was considered to be the best MLS coach, when he took the national team job. We all know how it turned out.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 10:40     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

^^^^ should play pro overseas, no matter that they play for the US in international play
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2018 10:39     Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread

If it is Berkhalter, I don't believe he is DOA as a coach. He's done well in MLS and has experience overseas. Pulisic is still playing for the US internationally. These young players should play overseas where they get the best competition available. No reason to change that.

I'm curious to see if it is Berkhalter and also to see the player reaction and how play and national player recruitment/retention changes. I don't see why we need to pre-judge a decision that hasn't been announced.