Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 16:19     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.


NP. Sorry but facts are most women in their 30s WILL get pregnant on their own with no intervention. Yes, your odds are lower than when you're 20 or 25 or 30. I kind of doubt there are many women left who don't know this. I think the pendulum has swung the opposite way on this issue and too many people try to scare the crap out of women needlessly.

Making decisions because you might be in the minority and might have issues is fear-based decision making. There are so many variables. Age is one of them. And I say this as someone who had fertility issues.


According to newer data, 80% of women will conceive within a year with no intervention. So, yeah, enough with the fear-mongering. I know that's cold comfort to those in the 20% who don't, but to claim that all women who wait will have trouble does no one any favors.


You don’t know if you are in that twenty percent until it’s too late and of course, the odds of getting pregnant decline significantly after age 40 Plus, conditions such as autism are more common among older parents. It isn’t fear monger get to discuss the facts.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 15:57     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, brave to share.


Some things are private and your infertility is one of them!


That is certainly the right for people if that’s what they choose. But there is no need to hide it at all.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 15:55     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.


NP. Sorry but facts are most women in their 30s WILL get pregnant on their own with no intervention. Yes, your odds are lower than when you're 20 or 25 or 30. I kind of doubt there are many women left who don't know this. I think the pendulum has swung the opposite way on this issue and too many people try to scare the crap out of women needlessly.

Making decisions because you might be in the minority and might have issues is fear-based decision making. There are so many variables. Age is one of them. And I say this as someone who had fertility issues.


According to newer data, 80% of women will conceive within a year with no intervention. So, yeah, enough with the fear-mongering. I know that's cold comfort to those in the 20% who don't, but to claim that all women who wait will have trouble does no one any favors.


The problem is that until you start trying, you don’t know if you’ll be in the 80% or 20%. All women should know the odds and do what they can within their circumstances to optimize their fertility, if it’s important to them.


Sure, but chances are much higher you'll be in the 80 than the 20. Please say you understand that.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 15:48     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.


NP. Sorry but facts are most women in their 30s WILL get pregnant on their own with no intervention. Yes, your odds are lower than when you're 20 or 25 or 30. I kind of doubt there are many women left who don't know this. I think the pendulum has swung the opposite way on this issue and too many people try to scare the crap out of women needlessly.

Making decisions because you might be in the minority and might have issues is fear-based decision making. There are so many variables. Age is one of them. And I say this as someone who had fertility issues.


According to newer data, 80% of women will conceive within a year with no intervention. So, yeah, enough with the fear-mongering. I know that's cold comfort to those in the 20% who don't, but to claim that all women who wait will have trouble does no one any favors.


The problem is that until you start trying, you don’t know if you’ll be in the 80% or 20%. All women should know the odds and do what they can within their circumstances to optimize their fertility, if it’s important to them.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 15:00     Subject: Re:Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing wrong with IVF but why does miscarriages mean you need IVF? I don’t get that.


Miscarriages don’t necessarily mean you need ivf. I needed ivf to get pregnant, but then I also later suffered a miscarriage. Some people with recurrent miscarriages might use ivf in order to test embryos for chromosomal abnormalities so that they can make sure they’re using the highest quality embryos, in an effort to avoid more miscarriages.


This. The science is the same, but the reason for arriving there can be different. Only in hindsight did I realize two pregnancies and two live births were very lucky and spared my heart a very common pain.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:55     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.


NP. Sorry but facts are most women in their 30s WILL get pregnant on their own with no intervention. Yes, your odds are lower than when you're 20 or 25 or 30. I kind of doubt there are many women left who don't know this. I think the pendulum has swung the opposite way on this issue and too many people try to scare the crap out of women needlessly.

Making decisions because you might be in the minority and might have issues is fear-based decision making. There are so many variables. Age is one of them. And I say this as someone who had fertility issues.


According to newer data, 80% of women will conceive within a year with no intervention. So, yeah, enough with the fear-mongering. I know that's cold comfort to those in the 20% who don't, but to claim that all women who wait will have trouble does no one any favors.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:48     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, brave to share.


Some things are private and your infertility is one of them!


to each their own. i am personally glad she shared.


I am so happy she shared this information! Especially for African American women. African American women often hide infertility and would be ashamed to admit they had infertility issues. This is a huge reveal that I think will do so much for black women trying to have children and having the same struggles.


I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.


Ditto. African-American here who went through infertility and miscarriages twice and come from a family where everyone has 2-3 kids without trying. “But Grandma had 10 kids!”
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:45     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

Two of my three kids were born through IVF. I'm very open about this because I don't want women to feel like infertility or using repro services is shameful. The more matter-of-factly people discuss this, the less emotion will be there around it.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:23     Subject: Re:Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing wrong with IVF but why does miscarriages mean you need IVF? I don’t get that.


Miscarriages don’t necessarily mean you need ivf. I needed ivf to get pregnant, but then I also later suffered a miscarriage. Some people with recurrent miscarriages might use ivf in order to test embryos for chromosomal abnormalities so that they can make sure they’re using the highest quality embryos, in an effort to avoid more miscarriages.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:22     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.


NP. Sorry but facts are most women in their 30s WILL get pregnant on their own with no intervention. Yes, your odds are lower than when you're 20 or 25 or 30. I kind of doubt there are many women left who don't know this. I think the pendulum has swung the opposite way on this issue and too many people try to scare the crap out of women needlessly.

Making decisions because you might be in the minority and might have issues is fear-based decision making. There are so many variables. Age is one of them. And I say this as someone who had fertility issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:09     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

There’s nothing wrong with IVF but why does miscarriages mean you need IVF? I don’t get that.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 14:02     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.


It is precisely this kind of talk mislead many women into thinking they still have time when their biological clock is running out.

Out of 7 billion people on this earth there would be "plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s", but that doesn't diminish the fact that the older you are the harder it is. Given the audience on this forum, we would be best served if the fertility issue was brought up more prominently when we were younger.

Of course I don't endorse prioritize fertility over other factors such as love, maturity and economic issues. But sometimes you have to plunge to start a family when you don't feel ready but you can rise to the challenge. Talking about fertility issues absolutely helps people making better decisions.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 12:50     Subject: Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was coming here to say just this. I have heard a couple people (not many) imply that we black women are more fertile, and that infertility is a white women's thing. Clearly it is not, as we see from Michelle Obama, Gabrielle Union, and others, and getting it more out in the open is important to do. I luckily didn't have issues myself, but have had friends confide that they had miscarriages or trouble conceiving.

If you don't start trying to have kids until your mid-30s, then you are going to have trouble no matter what race you are, that is the lesson here.

Go away. Also, this just isn't true. Plenty of people get pregnant easily in their mid-30s.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 12:46     Subject: Re:Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:I love her even more now, which I didn't think was possible.


I agree. Love her!
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2018 12:24     Subject: Re:Michelle Obama did IVF

Anonymous wrote:I love her even more now, which I didn't think was possible.


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