How can I get a 504 for my undiagnosed adhd AAP 4th grader?
Sounds like it’s goubg to be a fight

Sorry, when I said "home school", I meant we keep him at his base school instead of going to the AAP center.
It was kind of difficult to get him the 504 plan because he is still on/above grade level. But he has multiple conditions/learning disabilities.

The link below (from the Virginia Department of Education) is about Supporting the Identification and Achievement of the Twice-Exceptional Student

http://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/gifted_ed/twice_exceptional.pdf

Anonymous wrote:My son is in AAP - 3rd grade (we keep him at his home school instead of sending him to the center.) He is a 2e kid (gifted with multiple conditions.) I just got him a 504 plan.

If you homeschool, why does he need a 504? Who approves it?

Anonymous wrote:My son is in AAP - 3rd grade (we keep him at his home school instead of sending him to the center.) He is a 2e kid (gifted with multiple conditions.) I just got him a 504 plan.

I am understanding that IEP’s are difficult to get in fcps. Are 504’s difficult to obtain also for an AAP kid?

My son is in AAP - 3rd grade (we keep him at his home school instead of sending him to the center.) He is a 2e kid (gifted with multiple conditions.) I just got him a 504 plan.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 4th grader in AAP (since last year) who was diagnosed as 2E with ADHD (combined type, but it's mainly inattentive and fidgeting) - and thus far the child has not been medicated.
The child already has a tutor once a week for a writing but continues to have writing issues (and it's ONLY writing issues - the child is above grade level in both math and reading, and no behavior issues). The writing issues are both form (hard to read) and content (totally disorganized).

I am just really struggling on whether I should medicate for only these writing issues, and wondered if anyone else had experience. I don't know that there is anything else short of medicated that we can do - I feel we've reached the end of other options.

This sounds like my kid too. How did you get the 2e diagnosis? Recommendations are welcome and will be appreciated.

Do you have a 504/IEP?

I’m new to this. My kids AAP teacher seems is telling me about organization, time management, and attention issues. But I’m not getting any information about evaluations for LD’s. They get evasive and an administration always becomes involved when I bring it up or when I ask too many questions.

My kid also has trouble writing too. But I want to do something, it’s to the point where my kid wants out of AAP. But I know his issues won’t go away.

2E is not a diagnosis. It just means that a person has an unusual talent coupled with an unusual challenge. It is more of a box a label or a category within gifted. You get diagnoses for things like ADHD, dyslexia, dysgraphia, ASD, CP, anxiety, OCD..... If a person is also intellectually gifted, they frequently are referred to as 2E (which doesn’t really work for many people as they have more than one challenge).

How do you help a gifted indentified kid with ADHD symptoms in FCPS when her school doesn’t seem to want to help.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 4th grader in AAP (since last year) who was diagnosed as 2E with ADHD (combined type, but it's mainly inattentive and fidgeting) - and thus far the child has not been medicated.
The child already has a tutor once a week for a writing but continues to have writing issues (and it's ONLY writing issues - the child is above grade level in both math and reading, and no behavior issues). The writing issues are both form (hard to read) and content (totally disorganized).

I am just really struggling on whether I should medicate for only these writing issues, and wondered if anyone else had experience. I don't know that there is anything else short of medicated that we can do - I feel we've reached the end of other options.

This sounds like my kid too. How did you get the 2e diagnosis? Recommendations are welcome and will be appreciated.

Do you have a 504/IEP?

I’m new to this. My kids AAP teacher seems is telling me about organization, time management, and attention issues. But I’m not getting any information about evaluations for LD’s. They get evasive and an administration always becomes involved when I bring it up or when I ask too many questions.

My kid also has trouble writing too. But I want to do something, it’s to the point where my kid wants out of AAP. But I know his issues won’t go away.

2E is not a diagnosis. It just means that a person has an unusual talent coupled with an unusual challenge. It is more of a box a label or a category within gifted. You get diagnoses for things like ADHD, dyslexia, dysgraphia, ASD, CP, anxiety, OCD..... If a person is also intellectually gifted, they frequently are referred to as 2E (which doesn’t really work for many people as they have more than one challenge).

Anonymous wrote:I have a 4th grader in AAP (since last year) who was diagnosed as 2E with ADHD (combined type, but it's mainly inattentive and fidgeting) - and thus far the child has not been medicated.
The child already has a tutor once a week for a writing but continues to have writing issues (and it's ONLY writing issues - the child is above grade level in both math and reading, and no behavior issues). The writing issues are both form (hard to read) and content (totally disorganized).

I am just really struggling on whether I should medicate for only these writing issues, and wondered if anyone else had experience. I don't know that there is anything else short of medicated that we can do - I feel we've reached the end of other options.

This sounds like my kid too. How did you get the 2e diagnosis? Recommendations are welcome and will be appreciated.

Do you have a 504/IEP?

I’m new to this. My kids AAP teacher seems is telling me about organization, time management, and attention issues. But I’m not getting any information about evaluations for LD’s. They get evasive and an administration always becomes involved when I bring it up or when I ask too many questions.

My kid also has trouble writing too. But I want to do something, it’s to the point where my kid wants out of AAP. But I know his issues won’t go away.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - I’m planning to have DC1 do writing over winter break - not sure what format yet

I'm one of the posters above. Honestly, I would start with thank you notes. It's like telling a very short story that follows a formula - thank you for the xxx, I can't wait to do yyy, so glad I got to see you and do zzzz together, etc.

In fifth grade we are heavy on typing and getting that up to speed. Nowadays, you can get away in many office setting with only typing.

Thank you. That is a good idea!!

Anonymous wrote:OP again - I’m planning to have DC1 do writing over winter break - not sure what format yet

I'm one of the posters above. Honestly, I would start with thank you notes. It's like telling a very short story that follows a formula - thank you for the xxx, I can't wait to do yyy, so glad I got to see you and do zzzz together, etc.

In fifth grade we are heavy on typing and getting that up to speed. Nowadays, you can get away in many office setting with only typing.

OP again - I’m planning to have DC1 do writing over winter break - not sure what format yet

I am the 8:51 poster, and I just wanted to say thank you to the last few posters who shared their writing ideas -- I found it very helpful. Thank you!

I'm the OP here. My DC1's teacher said things have been improving in the past 6 weeks, so I guess we are in a holding pattern for now.

IDK for sure what our next steps are, but one thing I know is that next summer will involve more writing than this past summer did. I think I really made a mistake not having him do more writing this past summer.

Anonymous wrote:Gosh -- NP here, but I'm also struggling with newly diagnosed 3rd grader in AAP -- and specifically the WRITING!!! The last post was very helpful to me... and I'm generally concerned that 1) he's not doing enough writing with enough guidance at school to make much meaningful progress in this area; 2) what strategies should we use to help him outside of class; and 3) how do we get those strategies to translate into school work?

If anyone has any additional thoughts about the challenges of teaching writing to young-ish ADHD kids -- I'd love to hear them. We're already investing in a tutor (once a week). We may need more, but I HATE the notion of having him do an extra hour of "school" each day -- 7 hours is enough! Are there any fun computer programs that anyone has found? He needs help with writing "organization" (among other things).

Get him an email account and have him write e-mails to family members. This is my son’s favorite writing activity (who hates writing).

Things that helped my DC's with writing.

Having them dictate to teacher/aide their answers - especially on assessments in school.

On homework they would dictate to us , they would copy them (one handwrote the other was on keyboard) once the ideas were on paper. FOr th eone with ASD and mild writing issues, he was up on printing fast and keyboarding by the start of 6th grade. For the one with profound dyslexia and dysgraphia, he was up on technology by the start of Junior year- yes he dictated to us up to that point- although it tapered off. He made progress every year, but so did the expectations of how much writing was required.

Keyboarding keyboarding keyboarding. Work on that. We would do 15 minutes every day during the summer and that added up over time. Sometimes I would take the test if they weren't fast enough to get to the next level. This moved them forward. One will never be a fast typist, but is vastly faster than when he tries to print. He had OT from 2nd grade -6th grade and nothing helped.

Graphic organizers- help people organize all those thoughts in their brains. Tons on the internet and almost al are free. They cover every different type of writing assignment. Both DC's developed a favorite.

There are speech to text software programs out that that are vastly superior to what was available when my children were in ES. Dragon Naturally Speaking is one, My DC even uses Siri to some extent.