If I transitioned from male to female I wouldn’t dream of competing as a woman. I guess the transition doesn’t come with a complimentary sense of honor.

Question: has any trans man (born female, but identifies and transitioned to be a man) ever won or come very close to winning a men's sports competition?

I'm guessing no?

I support trans rights, but not at the cost of women's sports entirely. I'd be in full favor of a third category, however.

FYI the girls state champions for Connecticut track and field were both boys who identified as girls (1st and 2nd place winners = boys).

And in this case, there is no hormone blocking required.

The first place state champ looked like a very strong and athletic male with long hair.

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Anonymous wrote:Had she transitioned hormonally?

In sport, I do think it provides a significant advantage for someone who is still physiologically a male to be competing with people who are physiologically female. We know its am advantage, that is why we have seperate men's and women's sports vs co-ed.

If she has fully transitioned, then while I think there is some advantage, it isn't as much of an advantage.

+1. She should be allowed to compete and win.

No.

She still has a man's skeletal structure and male muscular advantages that women do not have.

Her body is a male body even with hormone blockers.

Anonymous wrote:Had she transitioned hormonally?

In sport, I do think it provides a significant advantage for someone who is still physiologically a male to be competing with people who are physiologically female. We know its am advantage, that is why we have seperate men's and women's sports vs co-ed.

If she has fully transitioned, then while I think there is some advantage, it isn't as much of an advantage.

There is still an advantage.

Transitioning does not change physical bone structure or male muscular advantage.

Look at this specific case. The first place "winner" has a good 6 inches in height and much bigger male muscles than the 2nd place winner, probably 20 to 30 pounds more of muscle mass. She has a good foot in height over the 3rd place woman, and probably 50 lbs more muscle mass.

Her body looks like an athletic male body.

The 3rd place woman is small and compact, but the 2nd place is very tall and strong compared to most women's physiques. Even so, there is no way she can compete against an athletic male body, even being at her peak condition.

This is such an utterly unfair pushing down of women to make a man happy. It is wrong. Period.

basically, we're looking at the elimination of the "women's" sports category since men can just [say] they identify as women.

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Anonymous wrote:An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

Open to everyone!

Will trans women be allowed to participate in the child birth aspect of the competition?

Yes! My guess is that this will be so far in the future that it may actually happen. Along with robots.

O.K., and where will these Olympics be held? On Mars?

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Anonymous wrote:An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

Open to everyone!

Will trans women be allowed to participate in the child birth aspect of the competition?

Yes! My guess is that this will be so far in the future that it may actually happen. Along with robots.

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Anonymous wrote:An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

Open to everyone!

Will trans women be allowed to participate in the child birth aspect of the competition?

how about breast feeding?

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Anonymous wrote:An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

Open to everyone!

Will trans women be allowed to participate in the child birth aspect of the competition?

Anonymous wrote:An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

Open to everyone!

An Olympic sport of "Child Nurturing," that should be great for the television ratings. But will it be limited to genetic females or open to those who "identify" as females as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Not a fair competition. Women are really losing out these days for the sake of being pc.

This and I'm a liberal. Not sure how this became a PC thing?

+1

+2 Another liberal here. I feel like we've been hijacked by the transgender movement. You can be a liberal and not support this sort of thing. If you want to have a seperate trans race, have at it, but no, it's not fair to have biological men compete in women's races.

Anonymous wrote:In general, I support the rights of trans people, but I think this is just wrong. If that means that trans people can't compete at such levels in sports, than be it.

I respect your wish to be identified as whatever gender you choose, use the bathroom of your choice, and live however you please provided others aren't affected (this goes for all people, not just trans people). But this is biologically unfair to women in sports.

Absolutely this. I support people identifying however they want, but no one can erase the fact that someone who was born physically male will retain stronger bone structure and muscles, and a huge competitive advantage. You can’t identify that away. We have separate competitions for male and female bodies for a reason, and allowing someone who retains the advantages of a male body to compete against 100% physically female bodies flies in the face of that.

We can’t always have it all. There is little difference between allowing this and allowing select athletes to dope all they want while pretending that the playing field is equal.

Anonymous wrote:Had she transitioned hormonally?

In sport, I do think it provides a significant advantage for someone who is still physiologically a male to be competing with people who are physiologically female. We know its am advantage, that is why we have seperate men's and women's sports vs co-ed.

If she has fully transitioned, then while I think there is some advantage, it isn't as much of an advantage.

Men have a different body structure. Taking hormones might affect her muscle mass but would it change the type of muscles she has genetically (fast vs. slow twitch)? Even if it does, I suspect it would take a while to happen.

https://www.livestrong.com/article/355987-female-male-muscles/

Men have a larger lung capacity. Once developed, do the hormones cause the lungs to shrink (I would hope not)?

https://www.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/advan.00118.2006

Men have a different bone structure which gives them a "mechanical advantage".

https://work.chron.com/physiological-differences-between-male-female-athletes-20627.html