Anonymous
10/10/2018 22:08
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:OP, how do you not understand that they would have left the dog for 60 minutes?? 20 in the car and 40 before they realized he was with the cop. Which means they didn't check on it for 60min.
I don't think the dog was in dire harm but that doesn't matter. If they want dinners out, don't bring the dog.
Op here. You misunderstood. It was 20 minutes until my parents returned to the car. Then for 40 minutes the dog was locked in the patrol car while my parents were there too. It took the cop 40 minutes to write ticket. Dog was only alone for 20. Dog was with cop and parents for 40. Ticket got written for 69 minutes.
Normally they have two sets of keys but lost the other on this trip so they couldn't leave the car running.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 21:58
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:They may love their dog, but they did a dumb thing. The dog could have died. After their criminal charges are handled, please educate them.
https://veterinaryclinic.com/img/cartemp-safety.pdf
This talks about shade: https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/connecticut/stamford/amp/1854130/how-hot-is-too-hot-for-a-dog-in-the-car-this-hot-39
+1
Anonymous
10/10/2018 21:57
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:No sympathy. Use a drive through or one human goes in to pick up food while the other one stays in the car and then go to a rest area for a picnic. Get a lawyer, but they need to wise up.
+1
85 degrees? No sympathy.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 21:55
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Who cares. Too bad the police didn't have better things to do.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 21:41
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
OP, how do you not understand that they would have left the dog for 60 minutes?? 20 in the car and 40 before they realized he was with the cop. Which means they didn't check on it for 60min.
I don't think the dog was in dire harm but that doesn't matter. If they want dinners out, don't bring the dog.
I don't think the dog was in dire harm but that doesn't matter. If they want dinners out, don't bring the dog.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 20:59
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
If possible, they should also get pictures of the parking lot at the same time. To show the shade.
I don’t know about ohio but in Maryland there is something called no Lo prosecutare or the stet docket, where the charge just basically gets on hold for a year and if there are no further convictions, it goes away entirely. I’ve seen it used a lot for assault charges, so I’d guess if Ohio has something similar a decent defense lawyer could negotiate that. How old are they? Permanently retired? Would they ever want to adopt another animal?
I’m in the camp that this was not so outrageous and posed no threat to the dog. I did something similar for about 5 minutes once when I had to pee on a long road trip.
I don’t know about ohio but in Maryland there is something called no Lo prosecutare or the stet docket, where the charge just basically gets on hold for a year and if there are no further convictions, it goes away entirely. I’ve seen it used a lot for assault charges, so I’d guess if Ohio has something similar a decent defense lawyer could negotiate that. How old are they? Permanently retired? Would they ever want to adopt another animal?
I’m in the camp that this was not so outrageous and posed no threat to the dog. I did something similar for about 5 minutes once when I had to pee on a long road trip.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 20:45
Subject: Re:Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:OP said they went in to "grab food". I bet she means that they were eating there before returning to the car.
If they were just shopping and not eating, only one of them needed to go. If they went into some type of restaurant (even a casual one), waited in line to order, waited for food, then ate food, paid for food, and then walked back to the car (which obviously was not right outside the restaurant or they would have seen the cop straight away) then it was definitely an hour and not just 20 minutes. Especially if they honestly believed they weren't doing anything wrong and so didn't even try to really hurry up much.
OP, a judge is not going to have sympathy for them if they go in and lie. Better to be honest and to have learned a lesson.
Op here. They have a text saying they just arrived at the restaurant plus the reciept. They aren't lying about the time.
But what was your advice on this thread? They are repentant and just want to see what they should be doing.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 20:41
Subject: Re:Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
OP said they went in to "grab food". I bet she means that they were eating there before returning to the car.
If they were just shopping and not eating, only one of them needed to go. If they went into some type of restaurant (even a casual one), waited in line to order, waited for food, then ate food, paid for food, and then walked back to the car (which obviously was not right outside the restaurant or they would have seen the cop straight away) then it was definitely an hour and not just 20 minutes. Especially if they honestly believed they weren't doing anything wrong and so didn't even try to really hurry up much.
OP, a judge is not going to have sympathy for them if they go in and lie. Better to be honest and to have learned a lesson.
If they were just shopping and not eating, only one of them needed to go. If they went into some type of restaurant (even a casual one), waited in line to order, waited for food, then ate food, paid for food, and then walked back to the car (which obviously was not right outside the restaurant or they would have seen the cop straight away) then it was definitely an hour and not just 20 minutes. Especially if they honestly believed they weren't doing anything wrong and so didn't even try to really hurry up much.
OP, a judge is not going to have sympathy for them if they go in and lie. Better to be honest and to have learned a lesson.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 20:18
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.
With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?
Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.
A car inside is much hotter than 85 outside.
It's not inside a car if the windows are down. Plus it probably wasn't 85 in the shade.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:58
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.
With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?
Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.
A car inside is much hotter than 85 outside.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:48
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.
With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?
Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:46
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
They may love their dog, but they did a dumb thing. The dog could have died. After their criminal charges are handled, please educate them.
https://veterinaryclinic.com/img/cartemp-safety.pdf
This talks about shade: https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/connecticut/stamford/amp/1854130/how-hot-is-too-hot-for-a-dog-in-the-car-this-hot-39
https://veterinaryclinic.com/img/cartemp-safety.pdf
This talks about shade: https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/connecticut/stamford/amp/1854130/how-hot-is-too-hot-for-a-dog-in-the-car-this-hot-39
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:44
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would two elderly people even care about a clean record? I wouldn't get a lawyer
This pay it. They made a mistake.
Make sure there isn't a possible prison sentence association with that crime.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:43
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
cop probably but the dog in his car, in the A/C, for 40 minutes to safely bring the dog's temperature down. He was doing a kindness - and YES that means dog was unattended for 1 hour.
Anonymous
10/10/2018 19:40
Subject: Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?
Anonymous wrote:Why would two elderly people even care about a clean record? I wouldn't get a lawyer
This pay it. They made a mistake.