Anonymous
09/28/2018 13:54
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
Colleges that Change Lives IS the joke.
Yes, such a joke that many of the CTCL are on the top-producing schools for Fulbright scholars.
http://topproducing.fulbrightonline.org/top-producing-institutions-by-year
And many of them are on lists of feeder schools for top graduate school programs as well as schools that produce high earners.
http://time.com/money/3311853/liberal-arts-colleges-top-earning-grads/
But they are a joke.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 13:26
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
There's a running argument about Colleges that Change Lives. One side (which apparently includes PP) thinks that CTCL is a marketing ploy by third tier schools to get noticed, and that no one seriously would attend one of these schools if they had any other choices. The other side thinks that CTCL has great advice and that students who attend those colleges (or other schools like them) are happier and have better outcomes than PP would anticipate.
It breaks down to a prestige, competitive admissions strategy vs. a holistic admissions strategy. Do you want your kid to win the college admissions game? Or do you want your kid to find a school that is a good match and will further their development as a person, in addition to furthering their career goals?[/
Excuse me while I vomit. The point of the CTCL skeptics i[b]sn't that the listed schools aren't good, it's that there's nothing so special about them that distinguishes them in any meaningful way from hundreds of other schools with similar admissions standards other than their being in the book -- hence, the view that it's nothing but a marketing tool for the listed schools.
NP here. I agree with this except I would also say that some of the CTCL schools are questionable IMO because of very poor graduation rates and retention rates. I do think the CTCL group is a marketing tool and their main purpose exists to put on college fairs and speeches supporting their member schools. Some of these schools seem excellent but, like PP said above, there are hundreds of other schools that are similar and better and yet aren't included on this "list".
Anonymous
09/28/2018 13:10
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Lots of good suggestions for SLACs, but it wasn't entirely clear to me from your post that she even wants an SLAC. Just that she is interested because she thinks it would be easier to get into ED. Am I misunderstanding the priorities and thinking?
There are many reasons why someone would like a SLAC but is that what she wants or does she just think she is more likely to get in?
There are many reasons why someone would like a SLAC but is that what she wants or does she just think she is more likely to get in?
Anonymous
09/28/2018 13:03
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
There's a running argument about Colleges that Change Lives. One side (which apparently includes PP) thinks that CTCL is a marketing ploy by third tier schools to get noticed, and that no one seriously would attend one of these schools if they had any other choices. The other side thinks that CTCL has great advice and that students who attend those colleges (or other schools like them) are happier and have better outcomes than PP would anticipate.
It breaks down to a prestige, competitive admissions strategy vs. a holistic admissions strategy. [b]Do you want your kid to win the college admissions game? Or do you want your kid to find a school that is a good match and will further their development as a person, in addition to furthering their career goals?[/
Excuse me while I vomit. The point of the CTCL skeptics isn't that the listed schools aren't good, it's that there's nothing so special about them that distinguishes them in any meaningful way from hundreds of other schools with similar admissions standards other than their being in the book -- hence, the view that it's nothing but a marketing tool for the listed schools.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 13:02
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:"Top local private."
This makes a difference. What do her grades actually look like? Does she always get A's in certain subjects? Are the B's grouped in other certain subjects? Or does she randomly get As and Bs?
If she has a strong group of subjects and if she takes the most rigorous courses in that group, getting Bs in her weak subjects even if they are basically "on grade level" won't matter. If she applies to every top 50 SLAC she will get in somewhere.
If she culls through the top 50 for the 20 or 25 that she likes best (read DO NOT just apply to the top 20 or 25) making sure to have the same number in each group of 1-10/11-20/21-30, she will get in somewhere.
If she has a strong suit where she stands out, the schools will know she can do the work and if OP you can pay the bill, it will work out.
LOL top local private makes no difference. Colleges/universities have many applicants who with stronger stats from other private and public schools.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 12:55
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
There's a running argument about Colleges that Change Lives. One side (which apparently includes PP) thinks that CTCL is a marketing ploy by third tier schools to get noticed, and that no one seriously would attend one of these schools if they had any other choices. The other side thinks that CTCL has great advice and that students who attend those colleges (or other schools like them) are happier and have better outcomes than PP would anticipate.
It breaks down to a prestige, competitive admissions strategy vs. a holistic admissions strategy. Do you want your kid to win the college admissions game? Or do you want your kid to find a school that is a good match and will further their development as a person, in addition to furthering their career goals?
VERY well stated. +1000
Anonymous
09/28/2018 12:46
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
OP, if you can afford it there are hundreds of SLACS she can get in to.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 12:44
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Check out Macalester--great school, urban-ish, strong international bent, she sounds like a likely admit.
If you visit Macalester, you should also visit Gustavus Adolphus and Carelton and St. Olaf's while you are in Minnesota
Anonymous
09/28/2018 12:42
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
There's a running argument about Colleges that Change Lives. One side (which apparently includes PP) thinks that CTCL is a marketing ploy by third tier schools to get noticed, and that no one seriously would attend one of these schools if they had any other choices. The other side thinks that CTCL has great advice and that students who attend those colleges (or other schools like them) are happier and have better outcomes than PP would anticipate.
It breaks down to a prestige, competitive admissions strategy vs. a holistic admissions strategy. Do you want your kid to win the college admissions game? Or do you want your kid to find a school that is a good match and will further their development as a person, in addition to furthering their career goals?
Anonymous
09/28/2018 12:40
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
If she likes Amherst, she should look at Smith & Mt Holyoke. She could still take Amherst classes. Not sure why one wouldn’t look at a number of theses colleges if they are in the area. You can visit 3 in a day and even squeeze a drive by or drop in at the other 2.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 10:56
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Is it easier to get into a women’s college?
Anonymous
09/28/2018 10:53
Subject: DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Check out Macalester--great school, urban-ish, strong international bent, she sounds like a likely admit.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 10:49
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
Colleges that Change Lives IS the joke.
Anonymous
09/28/2018 10:47
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Anonymous wrote:Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
Okay, I'm newer to this forum. I'm only a little bit familiar with Colleges that Change Lives schools. So, for the novice, let me in on the joke!
Anonymous
09/28/2018 10:45
Subject: Re:DD wants top SLACs But Doesn't Have Grades
Look at the Colleges that Change Lives schools!
(chuckle chuckle)
(chuckle chuckle)