Anonymous
09/22/2018 07:17
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Look, every analysis agrees that electric mowers are generally better for the environment than gas mowers.
There seems to be this thought among people that unless it's completely 100% green, then it is not worth it.
Further, the argument that charging it spews pollution is a bit of a chicken and an egg. The power plants already exists and the amount of energy that a battery draws is minimal.
Compare that to the continual refining of fossil fuels for gas to power the mower Plus the pollution generated locally and the energy from the refinery, and electric comes out as a net positive for the environment. In spite of all the talk if " efficiency."
Finally, the battery powered mower has the advantage of moving into the future. That is, as solar panels and more renewable resources become more available for charging, in the long run, the battery is the future
There seems to be this thought among people that unless it's completely 100% green, then it is not worth it.
Further, the argument that charging it spews pollution is a bit of a chicken and an egg. The power plants already exists and the amount of energy that a battery draws is minimal.
Compare that to the continual refining of fossil fuels for gas to power the mower Plus the pollution generated locally and the energy from the refinery, and electric comes out as a net positive for the environment. In spite of all the talk if " efficiency."
Finally, the battery powered mower has the advantage of moving into the future. That is, as solar panels and more renewable resources become more available for charging, in the long run, the battery is the future
Anonymous
09/21/2018 23:05
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Who cares? The plant is polluting somewhere else. The mower pollutes my backyard. I went electric so I don't have to inhale gas fumes. If someone else in the boondocks is sucking up the fumes on my behalf.. I thank them.
Well that's certainly taking the long view.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 23:03
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Nerd!
Thank you!
Anonymous
09/21/2018 21:21
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Contemplating a typical fossil-fuel-burning plant as the source: 10% is lost in combustion (not transferred to steam), 60% is lost at the turbine, 10% is lost in transmission, 20% is lost charging, 10% is lost discharging, and 10% is lost in the motor… so it ends up about 21% efficient - that is to say, ~79% of the energy in the source oil goes to waste (heat).
Nerd!
Anonymous
09/21/2018 20:43
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG. Who cares about your gas mower? Why are you even on this thread.
It's like there is a legion of gas fanatics (not simply gas powered engine owners--because most don't give a fig one way or the other) but FANATICS who somehow feel threatened by electric engines. And they have to let the world know how superior their sh1t is.
Why?
I like gasoline because of the inherent efficiency and energy density of it.
The Otto cycle with a small gasoline engine has thermal efficiency rates approaching 33-34%.
Compared to an electric mower, where a typical fuel like coal or methane gas must be burned in a powerplant elsewhere to create the electricity that flows in the power grid to charge the battery to run the mower, losing efficiency in each step along the way, gasoline creates its energy at the end-destination, making it a FAR more efficient means of doing work for unit of energy.
That's why it's better.
Who cares? The plant is polluting somewhere else. The mower pollutes my backyard. I went electric so I don't have to inhale gas fumes. If someone else in the boondocks is sucking up the fumes on my behalf.. I thank them.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 14:01
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Contemplating a typical fossil-fuel-burning plant as the source: 10% is lost in combustion (not transferred to steam), 60% is lost at the turbine, 10% is lost in transmission, 20% is lost charging, 10% is lost discharging, and 10% is lost in the motor… so it ends up about 21% efficient - that is to say, ~79% of the energy in the source oil goes to waste (heat).
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:48
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Are you seriously arguing that a battery being charged is worse than refining extra gas? Because guess what the gas for your mower is way more energy intensive in the production and continual replenishment. Not to mention the oil changes Etc
And if you care that much about what a battery uses, then I seriously suggest that you take your home Off the Grid and stop using electricity all together.
You're not making any sense at all at this point.
Oh, no, you understand very well that you just lost the argument to PP
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:46
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Are you seriously arguing that a battery being charged is worse than refining extra gas? Because guess what the gas for your mower is way more energy intensive in the production and continual replenishment. Not to mention the oil changes Etc
And if you care that much about what a battery uses, then I seriously suggest that you take your home Off the Grid and stop using electricity all together.
You're not making any sense at all at this point.[/quote
Ahh. "Gas" lighting. The last Bastion of an energy hogging , losing argument
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:32
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Are you seriously arguing that a battery being charged is worse than refining extra gas? Because guess what the gas for your mower is way more energy intensive in the production and continual replenishment. Not to mention the oil changes Etc
And if you care that much about what a battery uses, then I seriously suggest that you take your home Off the Grid and stop using electricity all together.
You're not making any sense at all at this point.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:28
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:I disagree. They smell bad, pollute the environment, and are much noisier than electric motors. They are better than electrics ONLY for large expanses of lawn, but that won't last with improving battery technology.
You're still forgetting about the smelly, polluting and noisy powerplant that was required to generate the electricity for your battery mower.
Are you seriously arguing that a battery being charged is worse than refining extra gas? Because guess what the gas for your mower is way more energy intensive in the production and continual replenishment. Not to mention the oil changes Etc
And if you care that much about what a battery uses, then I seriously suggest that you take your home Off the Grid and stop using electricity all together.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:27
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG. Who cares about your gas mower? Why are you even on this thread.
It's like there is a legion of gas fanatics (not simply gas powered engine owners--because most don't give a fig one way or the other) but FANATICS who somehow feel threatened by electric engines. And they have to let the world know how superior their sh1t is.
Why?
I like gasoline because of the inherent efficiency and energy density of it.
The Otto cycle with a small gasoline engine has thermal efficiency rates approaching 33-34%.
Compared to an electric mower, where a typical fuel like coal or methane gas must be burned in a powerplant elsewhere to create the electricity that flows in the power grid to charge the battery to run the mower, losing efficiency in each step along the way, gasoline creates its energy at the end-destination, making it a FAR more efficient means of doing work for unit of energy.
That's why it's better.
I disagree. They smell bad, pollute the environment, and are much noisier than electric motors. They are better than electrics ONLY for large expanses of lawn, but that won't last with improving battery technology.
Yep. and the whole thing about coal being burned to create electricity is a tired canard. I don't see anybody going off grid in their houses to reduce electrical use. Our homes use way more energy than a battery. Further, coal is not used as much to create electricity as this Chestnut suggests.
but my point wasn't why do you like a gas mower. My point is why are there some people who are so enthralled with them they feel the need to insert themselves into a Thread about an electric mower? I'm pretty sure you were not asked
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:26
Subject: Re:Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
I disagree. They smell bad, pollute the environment, and are much noisier than electric motors. They are better than electrics ONLY for large expanses of lawn, but that won't last with improving battery technology.
You're still forgetting about the smelly, polluting and noisy powerplant that was required to generate the electricity for your battery mower.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:20
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG. Who cares about your gas mower? Why are you even on this thread.
It's like there is a legion of gas fanatics (not simply gas powered engine owners--because most don't give a fig one way or the other) but FANATICS who somehow feel threatened by electric engines. And they have to let the world know how superior their sh1t is.
Why?
I like gasoline because of the inherent efficiency and energy density of it.
The Otto cycle with a small gasoline engine has thermal efficiency rates approaching 33-34%.
Compared to an electric mower, where a typical fuel like coal or methane gas must be burned in a powerplant elsewhere to create the electricity that flows in the power grid to charge the battery to run the mower, losing efficiency in each step along the way, gasoline creates its energy at the end-destination, making it a FAR more efficient means of doing work for unit of energy.
That's why it's better.
I disagree. They smell bad, pollute the environment, and are much noisier than electric motors. They are better than electrics ONLY for large expanses of lawn, but that won't last with improving battery technology.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 13:06
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
Anonymous wrote:OMG. Who cares about your gas mower? Why are you even on this thread.
It's like there is a legion of gas fanatics (not simply gas powered engine owners--because most don't give a fig one way or the other) but FANATICS who somehow feel threatened by electric engines. And they have to let the world know how superior their sh1t is.
Why?
I like gasoline because of the inherent efficiency and energy density of it.
The Otto cycle with a small gasoline engine has thermal efficiency rates approaching 33-34%.
Compared to an electric mower, where a typical fuel like coal or methane gas must be burned in a powerplant elsewhere to create the electricity that flows in the power grid to charge the battery to run the mower, losing efficiency in each step along the way, gasoline creates its energy at the end-destination, making it a FAR more efficient means of doing work for unit of energy.
That's why it's better.
Anonymous
09/21/2018 06:24
Subject: Help! My Ego electric mower won't start
I found their customer service really good. And I too love my electric mower. Quiet, light. Gets the job done.