Anonymous
09/06/2018 08:49
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”
Can you explain how I see this more?
Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP
Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html
Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.
NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html
Anonymous
09/06/2018 08:27
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”
Can you explain how I see this more?
Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP
Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html
Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.
NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?
Anonymous
09/02/2018 14:35
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
<sigh>. Thanks pp. that was very helpful.
- OP
- OP
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:51
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
(I am assuming that WOES is the correct center for TCES).
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:51
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Based on last year's enrollments, there were 46 AAP students who transferred OUT of TCES.
There were 198 AAP transfers INTO White Oaks. And there were 263 AAP students total at WOES. So roughly 65 students who are zoned for WOES attend AAP there as well. The rest are transferred in for AAP (198).
46 is not a very strong case for LL4. Divided by four grade levels, that is about 11 kids per grade. Not all would choose to stay in LL4 if it was offered at TCES. So there could be 5 kids in LL4 per grade. But, even if every one of them stayed at TCES, that would mean 11 kids per AAP classroom were identified as AAP eligible. The rest would have to be principal-placed -- meaning parents would be fighting to get their kids into the "smart" classroom even though their kids were not AAP-eligible.
Sorry. I am not optimistic that you would be able to persuade the principal/school board to make this change.
There were 198 AAP transfers INTO White Oaks. And there were 263 AAP students total at WOES. So roughly 65 students who are zoned for WOES attend AAP there as well. The rest are transferred in for AAP (198).
46 is not a very strong case for LL4. Divided by four grade levels, that is about 11 kids per grade. Not all would choose to stay in LL4 if it was offered at TCES. So there could be 5 kids in LL4 per grade. But, even if every one of them stayed at TCES, that would mean 11 kids per AAP classroom were identified as AAP eligible. The rest would have to be principal-placed -- meaning parents would be fighting to get their kids into the "smart" classroom even though their kids were not AAP-eligible.
Sorry. I am not optimistic that you would be able to persuade the principal/school board to make this change.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 22:00
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Terra Centre is our base school
- OP
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Anonymous
09/01/2018 21:05
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Did you find out how many AAP transfers out of your base school there are? If you can't find it, just tell me the name of the school and I'll find the numbers.
FWIW, sometimes when they do Local Level 4, they implement it one year at a time. So, they decide to do LL4 and they say "next year we'll start with the 3rd graders, and the year after that those kids will be 4th graders in LL4, and we'll add the new 3rd grade LL4, etc." The reason for this is that the kids who are already at the center probably want to stay there and finish out what they started.
Of course, if the center is super crowded and there are ALOT of kids that transfer out of the local school, and a lot of them want to come back, it could be implemented with the 3rd and 4th graders (the 4th graders would have to be willing to come back to the local school). This is happening at Bush Hill (well, actually, they are making it a center and taking from Springfield Estates). So, it's not exactly the same.
With the LL4, remember that the kids will always have the option of going to the center. So, you never really know how many will stay -- which can lead to situations where you have like 4 kids in "LL4" per grade, and the other 15 kids go to the center. You have to wonder if that kind of LL4 is just a farce.
FWIW, sometimes when they do Local Level 4, they implement it one year at a time. So, they decide to do LL4 and they say "next year we'll start with the 3rd graders, and the year after that those kids will be 4th graders in LL4, and we'll add the new 3rd grade LL4, etc." The reason for this is that the kids who are already at the center probably want to stay there and finish out what they started.
Of course, if the center is super crowded and there are ALOT of kids that transfer out of the local school, and a lot of them want to come back, it could be implemented with the 3rd and 4th graders (the 4th graders would have to be willing to come back to the local school). This is happening at Bush Hill (well, actually, they are making it a center and taking from Springfield Estates). So, it's not exactly the same.
With the LL4, remember that the kids will always have the option of going to the center. So, you never really know how many will stay -- which can lead to situations where you have like 4 kids in "LL4" per grade, and the other 15 kids go to the center. You have to wonder if that kind of LL4 is just a farce.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 18:43
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
^
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- OP
Anonymous
09/01/2018 18:42
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Dc is 7 - 2nd grade.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 10:29
Subject: Re:LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
How old is your child, OP?
Anonymous
09/01/2018 09:54
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”
Can you explain how I see this more?
Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP
Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html
Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.
Anonymous
09/01/2018 07:23
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”
Can you explain how I see this more?
Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP
Can you explain how I see this more?
Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP
Anonymous
08/30/2018 17:24
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
We only had 2 out of 8 kids choose to stay local and not go to the Center so the other 22 are all principal placed.
I was very taken aback at how obvious the Center staff was about discouraging parents to choose the Center over local level IV. It was clear they didn't want the kids.
I was very taken aback at how obvious the Center staff was about discouraging parents to choose the Center over local level IV. It was clear they didn't want the kids.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 14:12
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
I think the long 13:57 post is a great detailed portrait of how and ideal center looks! I don’t have enough experience at our center to know how it compares to this portrait.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 13:58
Subject: LLIV - Process for Starting it at a School?
Anonymous wrote:That is a decision that comes from above (district or pyramid level) not from below (parents).
But either way, it requires strong support from the principal. I've seen the principal at a non-center school resist getting LLIV for years, and I've seen the principal at a center school who dislikes AAP do everything she can to weaken the program.