Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

Good schools but not good football teams. Actually, Stanford has had a few good teams over the years, but they're inconsistent.

Michigan
Northwestern
UCLA
Washington
TCU

Would you like more?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't negate the connections the kids at big sports schools can make. Bigger school means bigger network.

yeah, a watered down* network

This.

Smaller schools have strong close-knit networks. Professors and career counselors will make phone calls to alumni to directly hook the student up with an internship. At big schools, there are more alumni, but in a way there are too many alums and too many students to make those genuine and worthwhile connections.

Anonymous wrote:Let the kid go where they want. Do you think they will succeed in a place where they are not happy? Choose your battles a little more wisely OP.

Frat/srat life, football and binge drinking = happy! (and typically higher risk of dropout, longer to graduate, lower gpa, less favorable on-campus recruiting)

Kids at intense schools lacking D1 football can't be happy, of course. They are all depressed nerds!

Such a state school way of looking at things, bless your heart.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

I think the OP was probably referring more to state flagships like Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say, "Yes, I'm going to Harvard for the rah-rah sports culture!"

Anonymous wrote:Don't negate the connections the kids at big sports schools can make. Bigger school means bigger network.

yeah, a watered down* network

Let the kid go where they want. Do you think they will succeed in a place where they are not happy? Choose your battles a little more wisely OP.

Anonymous[b wrote:]The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. [/b] (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

And UNC, plus I'm sure there are plenty of others.

Yes. There is a lot of data out there on how school affects success. Hint: it doesn't. In other words, kids who get into highly selective schools but then elect to go to their state flagship or a less prestigious private school end up with the same outcomes.

It's the person, not the school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

They don't have football programs... they play football, i get it, but lets be real.

Stanford Cardinal School History
Seasons: 98 (1918 to 2018)
Record (W-L-T): 570-438-34
Conferences: Pac-12, Pac-10, Pac-8, AAWU, PCC
Conf. Championships: 14
Bowl Record: 28 Bowls, 14-13-1, .537 W-L% (Major Bowls)
Ranked in AP Poll: 22 Times (Preseason), 20 Times (Final), 295 Weeks (Total)

Feel stupid?

Yes. I forgot. They have had some good teams. Mea Culpa.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

Good schools but not good football teams. Actually, Stanford has had a few good teams over the years, but they're inconsistent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

They don't have football programs... they play football, i get it, but lets be real.

Stanford Cardinal School History
Seasons: 98 (1918 to 2018)
Record (W-L-T): 570-438-34
Conferences: Pac-12, Pac-10, Pac-8, AAWU, PCC
Conf. Championships: 14
Bowl Record: 28 Bowls, 14-13-1, .537 W-L% (Major Bowls)
Ranked in AP Poll: 22 Times (Preseason), 20 Times (Final), 295 Weeks (Total)

Feel stupid?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

They don't have football programs... they play football, i get it, but lets be real.

Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

Difficult decision. Could the school perhaps be better for their program?

My DC turned down top 20 schools to go to a state with rah rah football but the school was top 5 in DC field of study.

Anonymous wrote:Don't negate the connections the kids at big sports schools can make. Bigger school means bigger network.

i went to a big10 school, my sister went to swarthmore.

a bigger network isn't amore effective network.

princeton, williams, and wellesley are legendary for the strength of their networks that no 'bigger school' can match.