Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 22:33     Subject: Re:How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

Op here. Thank you for the explanation. So commuters are coming to my neighborhood to get onto 495. I had absolutely no idea. We always visited the house during the middle of the day or on weekends. I knew 495 was a standstill where the 495 HOV Express lane ends and towards MD. Did not realize that would affect my neighborhood traffic to my children’s school.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 22:03     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

*Sorry for the typos. ^^

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Post 08/18/2018 22:03     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


Op here. I’m new to the area so I’m genuinely curious where the traffic from my home area comes from. I live about 2 miles west of the 495 ramp off Georgetown pike. There are no office buildings that I know of around my house. I know there are offices in tysons and downtown McLean but not where I live.


OP - Your problem areas are inside the Beltway are caused by MD drivers who work in Tysons and are bypassing the Beltway by cutting through the following streets main: Dead Run, Carper, Churchill and Balls Hill. Your problem are directly outside of the Beltway are caused by MD drivers who work in Tysons and cut through to GTPike via Swinks Mill. Your problem areas even further outside of the Beltway are caused by MD drivers who work in Reston, Sterling and Chantilly and don't want to pay the toll on the DTR so they cut all the way down Georgetown Pike (and increasingly via Old Dominion too) thus backing up traffic at the bridge going over 495. To add to the problem, these rude drivers aren't content with just using the two left designated turn lanes. They like to block the thru lane that heads to CMS and LHS and use it as a third turn lane thus blocking thru traffic and further backing up traffic up the GTPike. Additionally, those drivers that shoot down Old Dominion usually take it to Balls Hill Road and back up that intersection. The really annoying ones continue down Old Dominion Road, make a left onto Earnestine Street to Elizabeth Street to Churchill then on to Carper or Dead Run - also clogging up that neighborhood and blocking driveways as they make their way to GTPike to get onto the Beltway. Neighbors living on Kensington Road off of Dolley Madison also take a big hit from MD and DC drivers who work in Tyson's and are cutting through up to Dead Run and Carper to the Beltway. Hope that helps you better understand where the many problems are.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 21:06     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


This makes no sense. The taxes of Langley support most of Fairfax County. Does Langley care about Marylanders? No, probably not. I see why you are upset?


Langley people pay taxes and so do plenty of others. You want to make this a VA vs. MD issue, but the MD commuters aren’t going away and all the Langley snobs want to do is divert them onto other VA roads and into other VA neighborhoods. If Foust lets that happen, he is toast.


You don't know anything about Langley.


You don’t care about anything other than Langley.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 20:45     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


Op here. I’m new to the area so I’m genuinely curious where the traffic from my home area comes from. I live about 2 miles west of the 495 ramp off Georgetown pike. There are no office buildings that I know of around my house. I know there are offices in tysons and downtown McLean but not where I live.


Tysons traffic diverts through the areas you mention, OP.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 20:44     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


This makes no sense. The taxes of Langley support most of Fairfax County. Does Langley care about Marylanders? No, probably not. I see why you are upset?


Langley people pay taxes and so do plenty of others. You want to make this a VA vs. MD issue, but the MD commuters aren’t going away and all the Langley snobs want to do is divert them onto other VA roads and into other VA neighborhoods. If Foust lets that happen, he is toast.


You don't know anything about Langley.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 20:41     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


Op here. I’m new to the area so I’m genuinely curious where the traffic from my home area comes from. I live about 2 miles west of the 495 ramp off Georgetown pike. There are no office buildings that I know of around my house. I know there are offices in tysons and downtown McLean but not where I live.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 20:41     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


This makes no sense. The taxes of Langley support most of Fairfax County. Does Langley care about Marylanders? No, probably not. I see why you are upset?


Langley people pay taxes and so do plenty of others. You want to make this a VA vs. MD issue, but the MD commuters aren’t going away and all the Langley snobs want to do is divert them onto other VA roads and into other VA neighborhoods. If Foust lets that happen, he is toast.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 19:36     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.


This makes no sense. The taxes of Langley support most of Fairfax County. Does Langley care about Marylanders? No, probably not. I see why you are upset?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 19:35     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:Kiss afternoon extracurriculars goodbye - courtesy of MD commuters using our local roads to avoid the DTR and Beltway. GTPike is a parking lot during afternoon rush hour. Our local officials don’t care about our kids- that’s been made clear. Those of us in GF would be better off getting rezoned to other schools. More time for the kids and they’d be at the top of the academic pool!


Op here. So are these people cutting through?

We just moved in 2 weeks ago and still trying to figure things out. I was trying to come home from Bethesda the other day, got off my exit and this guy started trying to run me off the road because he was so mad that he thought I cut him off. I was just trying to merge so I could turn to go home.



Now you know why the ramp is closing. Maryland people think their commute is everyone else's problem. It simply is not.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 16:51     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.


It's about both traffic and about requiring privileged Langley a-holes to live with their decisions and not try to stick it to everyone else, which is what you've been doing for decades.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 14:24     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

Anonymous wrote:Kiss afternoon extracurriculars goodbye - courtesy of MD commuters using our local roads to avoid the DTR and Beltway. GTPike is a parking lot during afternoon rush hour. Our local officials don’t care about our kids- that’s been made clear. Those of us in GF would be better off getting rezoned to other schools. More time for the kids and they’d be at the top of the academic pool!


Op here. I was just thinking about what extracurricular activities to sign up for. Maybe I will just wait until school starts. Sounds like it would be a nightmare to try and pick them up from school.

They will attend Churchill Road Elementary and I have to pass Cooper MS to get to their school. My neighbor warned me it will only get worse and that the current traffic was considered light traffic because everyone is on vacation. That’s scary because I already think the traffic is terrible.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 14:20     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

Anonymous wrote:Kiss afternoon extracurriculars goodbye - courtesy of MD commuters using our local roads to avoid the DTR and Beltway. GTPike is a parking lot during afternoon rush hour. Our local officials don’t care about our kids- that’s been made clear. Those of us in GF would be better off getting rezoned to other schools. More time for the kids and they’d be at the top of the academic pool!


Op here. So are these people cutting through?

We just moved in 2 weeks ago and still trying to figure things out. I was trying to come home from Bethesda the other day, got off my exit and this guy started trying to run me off the road because he was so mad that he thought I cut him off. I was just trying to merge so I could turn to go home.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 12:56     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

"I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school."

"Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win."

+1

THIS.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2018 12:08     Subject: How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VDOT is still taking parent input on their proposed pilot program to close the 1495 ramp weekdays from 1-7pm in an effort to discourage MD cut-through drivers and improve accessibility to our public schools and navigation in local neighborhoods. A second VDOT meeting will be held in the Fall. It is critical that parents show up to have their voices heard.

Email VDOT at:

meetingcomments@vdot.virginia.gov

And copy our local representatives at:

Dranesville@FairfaxCounty.gov, district31@senate.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov



How exactly do you expect Maryland residents to get to their jobs in VA, and why do you expect VDOT to close a ramp in the Langley area and divert traffic elsewhere in McLean and Arlington?


I expect them to stay out of our neighborhoods and on roads deemed appropriate for commuter traffic. I also expect VDOT to prioritize the interests of taxpaying Virginians pay for Virginians roads over the interests of Marylanders. Sorry but the fact that Maryland refuses to make appropriate infrastructure improvements to the AL Bridge - which they own - does not make their commute interests my priority. When they want to add another bridge to cross the Potomac at a more northern point or make improvements to the ALB, they'll have my support. Until then, I'm prioritizing the interestes of Virginia kids trying to get to school.


You are prioritizing the interests of the richest people in NoVa over everyone else in the DMV is what you're doing.


Actually, you are wrong. VDOT's own report clearly stated the bottleneck caused by the Georgetown Pike ramp is reverberating throughout the region. If they close it, the traffic will continually flow over the ALB much better. So in fact, this takes into consideration all DMV drivers - not just those Marylanders trying to get home. And in fact, you seem to feel it is okay to let entire neighborhoods in McLean be sacrificial lambs for the convenience of Maryland commuters. It's rush hour. The pain should be shared among all those in the DMV. Right now it's not. The kids in these areas did not choose the locations of their public schools. And they shouldn't have to spend hours on the GTPike to get to their schools or to their activities. The greater public should be considered and the closure proposal does just that. The borders for these schools run nearly 18 miles. So it's not just a wealthy enclave that gets back navigational routes to their public services. It's the entire GF/McLean/Reston/Vienna areas from which LHS and CMS pulls. And anyone traversing the Beltway now gets a smoother flow of traffic too. Win Win.


The Cooper/Langley boundaries are nutty because over the years the rich folks made sure that only other rich folks' kids could attend those schools. They pressured their elected officials to keep Cooper/Langley ut of boundary studies and add only other rich neighborhoods to the Cooper/Langley catchment areas.

If it's biting you in the ass now, so be it. That's not a reason to divert traffic to other people's neighborhoods just because you want to preserve the illusion that you live in some tony rural retreat with no traffic.


Oh I get it. So for you, this isn't really about better traffic flow for the DMV. This is about your version of sticking it to rich people. Typical of you libs.