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Anonymous wrote:Neither. You couldn't pick anything more boring if you tried. What's your budget

My car gets me from point A to point B. Doesn’t really matter what your driving when your stuck in traffic. I’ll take the reliability and low cost of ownership any day for a daily driver.

This is so wrong I'm not even going to bother

Both were redesigned for 2018. Both brands are considered reliable and hold their resale well. You can’t go wrong either way. They each have pros and cons. I suggest you drive them both and chances are your preference will be clear in terms of drive feel and comfort. If not, I would choose the one with the better crash test results. Still can’t decide? Negotiate on price and buy the one you get the better deal on.

We’ve alternated between Hondas and Toyotas and come from an extended family of Honda and Toyota owners. Yes, we’re all very practical and not much fun. Our Sienna was so great that we were confident when the time came to replace it we would buy a Toyota SUV but surprised ourselves by buying a Honda.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW when they say Toyota and Honda has greater reliability does not mean it saves money. Cheaper, Hyundai's, Kias and Chevy small cars are only slightly less reliable as all cars run pretty good and cost thousands less.

No really. Base prices...

Camry - $23k
Accord - $23k
Civic - $19k
Sonota - $19k
Optima - $23k
Malibu - $22k

Camry and Accord don't discount much and you are quoting list. Chevy does 20 percent off at year end so the Malibu can be a lot cheaper

Purchased a new Camry last year for 20k, SE with sunroof/nav package. You can definately negotiate if you shop at the right time.

Anonymous wrote:Neither. You couldn't pick anything more boring if you tried. What's your budget

My car gets me from point A to point B. Doesn’t really matter what your driving when your stuck in traffic. I’ll take the reliability and low cost of ownership any day for a daily driver.

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Camry and Accord don't discount much and you are quoting list. Chevy does 20 percent off at year end so the Malibu can be a lot cheaper

Sure, but then you're more likely to be paying a lot more in repairs and maintenance down the road. The Toyota Camry is one of the cheapest cars to maintain over ten years.

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/the-most-and-least-expensive-cars-to-maintain-by-maddy-martin

I owned a Malibu for a few years. It was “meh”. Some repairs, but not outrageous. I sold it with about 90k on it and felt relieved.
I’ve owned a Camry for 10 years or so and it has been very easy on my wallet. The car just runs. Period.
I put new struts on it last week, but at 145k that didn’t seem too bad.

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Camry and Accord don't discount much and you are quoting list. Chevy does 20 percent off at year end so the Malibu can be a lot cheaper

Sure, but then you're more likely to be paying a lot more in repairs and maintenance down the road. The Toyota Camry is one of the cheapest cars to maintain over ten years.

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/the-most-and-least-expensive-cars-to-maintain-by-maddy-martin

Anonymous wrote:Just got rid of my 15 yo Camry with 160,000 miles. It was mever going to die, I just didn’t want to drive it anymore. It sold for $1500–not bad considering.

Just got rid of our 97 Camry with 180,000 miles that still ran fine and had only minor problems, we were just ready for an upgrade. Got 800 for it, probably could've held out for more but just wanted to sell quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW when they say Toyota and Honda has greater reliability does not mean it saves money. Cheaper, Hyundai's, Kias and Chevy small cars are only slightly less reliable as all cars run pretty good and cost thousands less.

No really. Base prices...

Camry - $23k
Accord - $23k
Civic - $19k
Sonota - $19k
Optima - $23k
Malibu - $22k

Camry and Accord don't discount much and you are quoting list. Chevy does 20 percent off at year end so the Malibu can be a lot cheaper

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Anonymous wrote:Neither. You couldn't pick anything more boring if you tried. What's your budget

I think if someone is looking for a mid-size sedan these are the two most cost effective options. Many people don't want to spend (or waste) an extra $10k to get something "cool".

Remember you're going to be in that car for an hour a day (at least). Might as well get some enjoyment out of it.

Anonymous wrote:BTW when they say Toyota and Honda has greater reliability does not mean it saves money. Cheaper, Hyundai's, Kias and Chevy small cars are only slightly less reliable as all cars run pretty good and cost thousands less.

No really. Base prices...

Camry - $23k
Accord - $23k
Civic - $19k
Sonota - $19k
Optima - $23k
Malibu - $22k

BTW when they say Toyota and Honda has greater reliability does not mean it saves money. Cheaper, Hyundai's, Kias and Chevy small cars are only slightly less reliable as all cars run pretty good and cost thousands less.

I am one of the resident car guys here.

If a car is just transportation for you, then get the Toyota and be done with it. It will be the cheaper option both in terms of initial purchase and long term cost of ownership. If you get similarly emotional about a car as you do a washing machine or microwave, then Toyota is your pick. Look no further.

If you care a little more and want to feel a bit nicer driving around town, not for other people but for yourself, then go look at a Honda. They will cost a bit more given a certain grade of equipment, but the design is a little nicer in my eyes, with better execution in terms of materials, textures, colors, and technology. We are not talking about a huge difference here, but it's enough of a difference for Honda to draw a younger and more car enthusiast oriented crowd. Note that there are of course exceptions - the Toyota 86 and Prius are clear leaders in their class, but we are talking about Camry/Accord here.

Go sit in both cars, if you mumble "this feels nicer" when sitting in an Accord, you'll know why. If you say to yourself "I don't see what the big deal is", then go buy the Camry.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither. You couldn't pick anything more boring if you tried. What's your budget

I think if someone is looking for a mid-size sedan these are the two most cost effective options. Many people don't want to spend (or waste) an extra $10k to get something "cool".

Right. If you value value, then you will feel like an asshole every time you get into your “cool” car.

I am of this mindset. I need to buy a car in the next few months, and every time I look at something more luxury, or sportier, or most luxurious, or whatever, I balk at the price. I can't justify the extra $10k+. I'm in the car 30 minutes a day, my wife has a nicer car for family use and weekend trips, and there are so, so many things I'd rather do with the extra money.

+1 I don't need exciting when I'm driving. Hell, if anything I need LESS excitement, I already drive like a jack@$$ just like everyone else here in NoVa.

Younger people tend to choose the Honda Accord while older crowd pick the Toyota Camry. It's different taste.

Don't believe me? Look around and see what type of people are driving each car.

Subaru Legacy. Very similar to Toyota. Toyota owns part of the company. But it has four wheel drive and better safety systems. Eyesight front end collision avoidance.