Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:44     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Have you always been this dramatic or is this a late-in-life thing? You never actually gave any examples of anyone being "dangerous" other than the "kid in MAGA".

I personally haven't seen any intolerance towards Trump supporters here in MoCo (Rockville/Potomac area) other than some "Resist" yard signs. As far as illegal immigration, I think what most people object to is the racist "deport everyone, they're all rapists and criminals" mentality. I don't know a single liberal who says "sure, everyone who feels like entering the US should be allowed to, willy nilly". The thinking is more that everyone deserves consideration, particularly people fleeing dangerous situations. Sorry, I don't know how to explain to people how to be human and to care about the suffering of others. The "I got mine, everyone else can go burn, if they're not well off, then they probably deserve to suffer" mentality is what separates the conservatives from the liberals I know.

And as far as your Christianity goes, keep it out of our schools and government and really just keep it inside your own house and church, thanks. No one is going to persecute you if we don't constantly have to hear about it.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:44     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of all the at-large council candidates on the D side who will be on the ballot, all hail from Takoma Park / Silver Spring. ALL of them. Hardly representative of the county overall.


Silver Spring is huge, so that doesn't tell you much other than public servants don't earn enough to live in Bethesda or Chevy Chase.


I realize this is from Ficker's site, but the map is accurate:
https://twitter.com/ficker_robin/status/1023563535962517504

The public servants for at-lage positionas aren't coming from huge swaths of the county, like Germantown, Rockville, Clarksburg, etc.


So...how many of the candidates who lost the primary were from those places, though?


https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/lwvmc/pages/1/attachments/original/1527127413/PrimaryVG_website_singlepages--_%281%29.pdf?1527127413 (League of Women voters guide, here's a another link to it: https://www.lwvmocomd.org/vote411-org (2018 primary election guide near the bottom))

Page 30 lists all ~30 candidates for at-large council race. I doesn't list their place of residence, but I'm assuming at laest 4 out of the 30 are _not_ from SS/Takoma Park.

Also your argument is the same people use when they defend lack of racial or ethnic or gender diversity is business. How many of group X actually applied for the job?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:33     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of all the at-large council candidates on the D side who will be on the ballot, all hail from Takoma Park / Silver Spring. ALL of them. Hardly representative of the county overall.


Silver Spring is huge, so that doesn't tell you much other than public servants don't earn enough to live in Bethesda or Chevy Chase.


I realize this is from Ficker's site, but the map is accurate:
https://twitter.com/ficker_robin/status/1023563535962517504

The public servants for at-lage positionas aren't coming from huge swaths of the county, like Germantown, Rockville, Clarksburg, etc.


So...how many of the candidates who lost the primary were from those places, though?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:30     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of all the at-large council candidates on the D side who will be on the ballot, all hail from Takoma Park / Silver Spring. ALL of them. Hardly representative of the county overall.


Silver Spring is huge, so that doesn't tell you much other than public servants don't earn enough to live in Bethesda or Chevy Chase.


I realize this is from Ficker's site, but the map is accurate:
https://twitter.com/ficker_robin/status/1023563535962517504

The public servants for at-lage positionas aren't coming from huge swaths of the county, like Germantown, Rockville, Clarksburg, etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:24     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:Of all the at-large council candidates on the D side who will be on the ballot, all hail from Takoma Park / Silver Spring. ALL of them. Hardly representative of the county overall.


Silver Spring is huge, so that doesn't tell you much other than public servants don't earn enough to live in Bethesda or Chevy Chase.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:23     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Of all the at-large council candidates on the D side who will be on the ballot, all hail from Takoma Park / Silver Spring. ALL of them. Hardly representative of the county overall.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:22     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Elrich (who is way, way left) won by 77 votes in the primary. The issue was so many democrats threw their hat in the ring, that the moderate votes was split among Blair, Berliner, Frick, and Krasnow (ok, and Leventhal). Elrich got the unions on board and that locked up one constituency over the others. If even one of the other candidates had chosen not to run, Elrich probably would not have made it. I hold the local Dem party to blame for that (I dont' have a party affiliation -- like 1/3rd of registered MoCo voters -- so couldn't vote for any of them).

Then you have the MCGOP who puts up crazy Ficker. If they had chosen a moderate candidate, kind of like a MoCo version of Hogan, he'd stand a fighting chance of winning in November over Elrich.

Someone asked for an example of idiocy in MoCo governemnt. Here's one:
http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2018/County-Council-Approves-Funds-for-Immigrant-Legal-Services/

In short, the Council proposed to allocate $$ to a non-profit (CAIR) that provides legal services to illegal immigrants. They had a few strings attached, like the money can't be used to provide services for violent criminals. CAIR said no thanks (they never asked for the $$ in the first place, actually).

What does the Council do? They pass the bill anyway, so they allocate money in the hope they will eventually find a group that wants it! Shows how much they are about taxpayer money.

Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:12     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat but some of the BS in Montgomery county is too much for me


What BS? Give concrete examples.

When my friends - white men that are socially left-of-center - say stuff like this, it's usually because they are upset about "cultural signalling" issues - i.e., the rise of minorities and women in the Democratic party. I have a lot of white, male friends who are socially liberal and are very bitter about white men losing power in the Democratic party. They feel "lost" but can't honestly articulate why they are feeling that way.


Rise of women and minorities? No one cares about that. My party has had dramatic shifts on illegal immigration. That change summarized:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

No one should get to vote in any local election as an undocumented immigrant/illegal alien. No county money should be used for legal defense. No Puerto Rican should have come to the mainland after the hurricane and discovered Hispanic illegals have been using their identity to pilfer /steal government benefits. Imagine that. Complete with some Dems defending identify theft by illegals.


Puerto Rican friend said deport them and their families.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:11     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Governor Larry Hogan would be a Democrat in any other state, but to people in the DC suburbs in Maryland, he's Satan, and they just nominated a far-left Bernie Sanders puppet plus racial agitator to go against him.


You tip your hand here, OP. The only people who talk about "racial agitators" are racists.


Plus this nice turn of phrase...

Their brillo-haired Congressman, Jamie Raskin, made it his first priority in office to try to arrange a coup to overthrow our democratically elected President.



...yes OP, we get it you don't like Jewish Democrats.



I'm the PP who called out the "racial agitator" language (seriously, I think the last person to use that phrasing was Bull Connor) and wanted to say thanks for your comment. That particular dog-whistle would have slipped right by me.

Now we wait for OP to come back and claim some sort of marginalized status. Usually folks like that come back with some sort of "For the record, I'm not white." Usually what they mean is "I'm totally white, present as totally white, and identify as totally white, but for the purposes of this discussion I'm going to claim a possible indigenous ancestor."
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:10     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the most political person in the world but when forced to answer, I lean conservative. I'm for lower taxes, controlled immigration, I don't want to see taxpayer money go to abortions and I support our troops and I'm a Christian. But to some people on the north or should I say FAR LEFT side of the Potomac, I'm the Devil. I have friends who are liberals and Democrats and we get along just fine, as I said, I'm just not that obsessed with politics. I voted for Trump in 2016 but he was not my first choice and I don't love everything about him. I think career politicians who spend too much time in DC are out of touch with reality - ON BOTH SIDES - and that a change in leadership was a good thing.
My husband and I have lived all around the DC suburbs for twelve years. We now own property in outer Alexandria, but as recently as one year ago we lived in Silver Spring and GOD HELP US.

Maryland "Progressives" are so radically intolerant and hostile I couldn't wait to move. (The commute is better now, too). Trump is "the bully" but a kid in a MAGA hat gets beat up. Teachers turn a blind eye on students who skip school to go protest. Their brillo-haired Congressman, Jamie Raskin, made it his first priority in office to try to arrange a coup to overthrow our democratically elected President. The Governor Larry Hogan would be a Democrat in any other state, but to people in the DC suburbs in Maryland, he's Satan, and they just nominated a far-left Bernie Sanders puppet plus racial agitator to go against him. They used to have a liberal Republican congresswoman Connie Morrella, who was forced out by one leftist replace by extreme leftist Raskin who is really dangerous in my opinion. And now you have Montgomery County electing a far, far, far-left socialist former SDS member, Elrich, as its next County Executive??? Are you kidding me? If Nuclear-Free, Sanctuary, Vegan-Organic Takoma Park elects to become a protectorate of Cuba or Venezuela, will the rest of Montgomery and Prince George's County follow suit? Half of their government is from Takoma Park anyways, so essentially Venezuela would rule Montgomery County, and it sounds like people would be ok with that.

So my question is, Why is this? When and why did Maryland-DC suburbs, especially Montgomery County, embrace a one-party leftist dictatorship? 30-40 years ago, Maryland was a moderate Southern state with hospitality and politeness. Now its a leftist run-amok. And there's some irony here, because they are missing an opportunity to have some common ground dialogue with people like me - I'm for gun safety, for example. I don't believe that we should have guns in schools and I think there should be background checks - but ironically, if I walked through downtown Silver Spring with Trump paraphernalia, I'd be shot.


A kid in a MAGA hat gets beat up = all liberals are insane and intolerant. Gotcha. And you'd get shot wearing Trump paraphernalia, sure.

HELP! THE LIBS ARE "RUNNING AMOK".

Please tell me how exactly Raskin is "dangerous". Did he, for example, conspire with Russians to win his election?

Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:05     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat but some of the BS in Montgomery county is too much for me


What BS? Give concrete examples.

When my friends - white men that are socially left-of-center - say stuff like this, it's usually because they are upset about "cultural signalling" issues - i.e., the rise of minorities and women in the Democratic party. I have a lot of white, male friends who are socially liberal and are very bitter about white men losing power in the Democratic party. They feel "lost" but can't honestly articulate why they are feeling that way.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:05     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Governor Larry Hogan would be a Democrat in any other state, but to people in the DC suburbs in Maryland, he's Satan, and they just nominated a far-left Bernie Sanders puppet plus racial agitator to go against him.


You tip your hand here, OP. The only people who talk about "racial agitators" are racists.


Plus this nice turn of phrase...

Their brillo-haired Congressman, Jamie Raskin, made it his first priority in office to try to arrange a coup to overthrow our democratically elected President.



...yes OP, we get it you don't like Jewish Democrats.






Yes! Thanks for highlighting that nugget of racism. I caught it, but was shocked into silence.

Op: no need to wear a MAGA hat in SS, people can tell you are racist by your icy stare and fearful body language.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:02     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
I'm a democrat but some of the BS in Montgomery county is too much for me
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:02     Subject: Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP—I understand your post completely. I used to live in MD and I used to be a Democrat until the party changed. For people who claim that the right is intolerant, too many DEmocrats fail to see how intolerant that have become.


Intolerant of what?


Exactly. Usually they mean "intolerant of my racial resentments and veiled bigotry."

We can agree to disagree on policy differences. But when Republicans actively try to undermine the 1st, 6th, 10th, and 14th Amendments whenever they come into power, I call BS on their woe-is-me victimhood.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2018 10:00     Subject: Re:Why The Loony Left In Maryland?
Their brillo-haired Congressman, Jamie Raskin, made it his first priority in office to try to arrange a coup to overthrow our democratically elected President.

Nope, no racism to see here folks, just move along. OP as a Jew I find you truly offensive and understand how you voted for Trump.