Anonymous
07/21/2018 14:21
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Yes. They don't show the new age groups but they plan to split the 2003 into a 2003 and 2004 and split the 2005 into a 2005 and 2006.
I think it is a club on the rise. The challenge is that the club teams, unlike the graduating u19 team, is not likely to play in the top divisions of EDP or the top brackets of tournaments for another year. The training is great but the lack of competition does not help development.
Where do they train?
Bethesda/Rockville/Germantown.
Anonymous
07/21/2018 11:20
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
OP here. I don't see any hate. Bethesda is a great club but there is definitely a money grab aspect to the club. I just don't think it does the best job at training/developing. They do a great job of taking in players at u14/u15 that other clubs developed and helping them reach the next level but I don't see them developing younger players to get them to the elite level.
There seems to be some Bethesda hate on this board (girls side, anyway). What gives?
OP, I think your post got lost in the quote there. Bethesda Girls has a few great coaches who can develop players. It is hit and miss whether any particular player will get such a coach in the younger years. The club has a wealthy clientele and a lot of the families invest in private training on top of Bethesda’s training in an effort to reach the top tier. Obviously, the dedication of tremendous resources helps.
Anonymous
07/21/2018 11:15
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:
Yes. They don't show the new age groups but they plan to split the 2003 into a 2003 and 2004 and split the 2005 into a 2005 and 2006.
I think it is a club on the rise. The challenge is that the club teams, unlike the graduating u19 team, is not likely to play in the top divisions of EDP or the top brackets of tournaments for another year. The training is great but the lack of competition does not help development.
Where do they train?
Anonymous
07/20/2018 10:03
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
There seems to be some Bethesda hate on this board (girls side, anyway). What gives?
BSC girls works for a lot of girls/families with positive experiences, but recognize that some families do not find it a fit and/or have bad experiences. That's pretty common in soccer and more broadly travel sports. There are some very vocal posters on this board - but to say it's very shaky as a blanket statement isn't accurate for many groups. Would recommend anyone do your due diligence that would be similar to profile - - ie., age groups, roughly development level, and as other pp said in terms of specific coaches. ECNL, or a U13 player, for instance, would be very different than families first trying soccer at U9/U10.
Btw - On MRM, there are several teams led by different coaches with very different styles for different age groups. Again, its a due diligence process - and most teams allow players to try out in practices, which gives you a chance to see the coach, players, and talk to parents. Also in comparing notes with families, when you add up all the costs (a MRM team has more separate fees) , it's not cheaper than BSC
Anonymous
07/20/2018 09:29
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
OP here. I don't see any hate. Bethesda is a great club but there is definitely a money grab aspect to the club. I just don't think it does the best job at training/developing. They do a great job of taking in players at u14/u15 that other clubs developed and helping them reach the next level but I don't see them developing younger players to get them to the elite level.
There seems to be some Bethesda hate on this board (girls side, anyway). What gives?
Anonymous
07/20/2018 09:14
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Yes. They don't show the new age groups but they plan to split the 2003 into a 2003 and 2004 and split the 2005 into a 2005 and 2006.
I think it is a club on the rise. The challenge is that the club teams, unlike the graduating u19 team, is not likely to play in the top divisions of EDP or the top brackets of tournaments for another year. The training is great but the lack of competition does not help development.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 21:49
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Cultural issues is a little vague.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 18:02
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
There seems to be some Bethesda hate on this board (girls side, anyway). What gives?
There are cultural issues.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 17:23
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
There seems to be some Bethesda hate on this board (girls side, anyway). What gives?
Anonymous
07/19/2018 17:18
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous
07/19/2018 03:47
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Well you named all the clubs that produce except Bordeaux because the don't have a team in that age group but if you are searching for a specific type of play, close to home I suggest starting your own club barbecue you will never find everything you want in one club
FC Bordeaux does have 2007, 2005, and 2003 teams. I think they are trying to fill in with even year teams. My daughter got an offer we turned down for a new 2004 team. Not sure if they got enough interest to really make new teams. That's a club to watch.
Anonymous
07/17/2018 20:18
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
What’s wrong with MSI Academy for U11/U12/U13 Girls that people would not recommend and/or consider?
Are there any coaches there that are great coaches for U11, U12 or U13?
Are there any coaches there that are great coaches for U11, U12 or U13?
Anonymous
07/17/2018 16:33
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, can you explain why you think Bethesda is a money grab while the NoVa clubs you mention are not? The prices and training for all will be comparable, and all will have some good and not so good coaches. The U13 ECNL coach for next year has a long track record of developing talented players and has also done very well as the Whitman HS boys varsity coach. And what's your issue with the MRM coach? If he's good, why do you care if his style is unique, whatever that is supposed to mean?
I've always been grateful to live in MoCo, given that MSI offers a lot of good, low to moderate price options for a variety of skill levels. Bethesda has been great for our boys, both in terms of training and college recruitment.
Bethesda ECNL/Whitman coach is as serious as anyone, i.e. a great coach. A define a money grab as any club that has multiple teams per category without providing any serious effort to develop those players. I consider a program serious about development if they only have one or two teams per age. I know Layton shut down his u13 B squad because he did not have enough quality players that he felt he could develop and promote over the years. He is a great coach but his style wouldn't work for my kid. Some kids thrive off of get's cursed at during games and while others don't do well.
At the end of the day, NoVA just has more options and a more serious, less status-focused culture.
BSC girls is very shaky. Your best bet will be to go to Va.
Anonymous
07/17/2018 16:16
Subject: Re:Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
You are awoke.
Anonymous
07/17/2018 16:08
Subject: Serious non-money grab clubs for grils in MoCo
sounds like you already made a decision.
you are seeing the things.
you are seeing the things.