Anonymous
07/05/2018 14:28
Subject: Re:If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^ he's young and the on-field numbers are already there, he boasts better stats than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi produced at his age. By Matchday 4, when he was still 18, he had played 60 games for Dortmund, more than Ronaldo or Messi had managed at that age. The youngest non-German player to chalk up 50 Bundesliga appearances, he has already scored ten goals in an impressive 75 games across all competitions for Die Schwarzgelben. Attempting 291 dribbles and managing a 76.2% successful pass rate in Germany’s top division offers , numbers many players with far more experience could only dream of.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
Apples to Oranges. Ronaldo and Messi competed in Manchester United and Barcelona at the teams' peak era at 19.
Exactly, different level and no one is looking to sh*t on him. We shouldn't make him out to be the greatest thing ever, yet. Not only that but Pulisic should be the standard that the U.S. should be putting out all of the time and even better in the future. As previously stated he is not even yet at the level of Vasquez, Asensio and many other European up and coming players. Is he a very good player, yes, but he is not at the level we should yet be going crazy about. Give him time and then we'll see where he is at.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 13:40
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
At that level the teams can all be described with the word 'foreign legion'
People's lives are global, the world has changed. As a professional athlete you have a very small time in your life to make money and play professionally. You go where opportunities are. Just like other professionals
People's lives are global, the world has changed. As a professional athlete you have a very small time in your life to make money and play professionally. You go where opportunities are. Just like other professionals
Anonymous
07/05/2018 13:33
Subject: Re:If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^ he's young and the on-field numbers are already there, he boasts better stats than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi produced at his age. By Matchday 4, when he was still 18, he had played 60 games for Dortmund, more than Ronaldo or Messi had managed at that age. The youngest non-German player to chalk up 50 Bundesliga appearances, he has already scored ten goals in an impressive 75 games across all competitions for Die Schwarzgelben. Attempting 291 dribbles and managing a 76.2% successful pass rate in Germany’s top division offers , numbers many players with far more experience could only dream of.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
He is not in that class nor does he have that level of talent. He is a good player with a lot of upside in terms of the European professional leagues but he is not Messi or Ronaldo. You put either one of those players on the US team and they would have easily qualified. Messi and Ronaldo in their prime are once in a generation and you build your team around them. Seriously compare salaries and transfer fees.
No, he is not. They are in a unique Class of their own--the Peles, Best, Cryuff, etc.. But, he is much better than many jaded Americans in this thread give him credit for. They used to use him as their 'calling card' now we are back to, we will never have a player that can compete successfully on the World stage---when Pulisic's stats have been pretty amazing for your average 18/19-year old Fifa player.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:49
Subject: Re:If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:^ he's young and the on-field numbers are already there, he boasts better stats than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi produced at his age. By Matchday 4, when he was still 18, he had played 60 games for Dortmund, more than Ronaldo or Messi had managed at that age. The youngest non-German player to chalk up 50 Bundesliga appearances, he has already scored ten goals in an impressive 75 games across all competitions for Die Schwarzgelben. Attempting 291 dribbles and managing a 76.2% successful pass rate in Germany’s top division offers , numbers many players with far more experience could only dream of.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
Apples to Oranges. Ronaldo and Messi competed in Manchester United and Barcelona at the teams' peak era at 19.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:41
Subject: Re:If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:^ he's young and the on-field numbers are already there, he boasts better stats than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi produced at his age. By Matchday 4, when he was still 18, he had played 60 games for Dortmund, more than Ronaldo or Messi had managed at that age. The youngest non-German player to chalk up 50 Bundesliga appearances, he has already scored ten goals in an impressive 75 games across all competitions for Die Schwarzgelben. Attempting 291 dribbles and managing a 76.2% successful pass rate in Germany’s top division offers , numbers many players with far more experience could only dream of.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
He is not in that class nor does he have that level of talent. He is a good player with a lot of upside in terms of the European professional leagues but he is not Messi or Ronaldo. You put either one of those players on the US team and they would have easily qualified. Messi and Ronaldo in their prime are once in a generation and you build your team around them. Seriously compare salaries and transfer fees.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:33
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
Fair point but what is the point to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona where he may not have much playing time (for all is potential, is he already better than Dembele, Bale, or Asencio, who are not starters?).
Should not he stay a bit longer at Dortmund or move for a couple of years to Tottenham or Liverpool, which have great coaches more keen on giving a chance to the youngsters. If he is as good as he seems, he could then move to la Liga.
Nobody said he would choose to move. It is just said they have been throwing his name around. I have read that he is very happy at Dortmund for the reasons you listed---playing time. Most teams don't regularly play such young players. He is developing great where he is.
It’s not the best thing for him career-wise, at present. They’re only throwing his name around because they could get a good sub that’s a leader in jersey sales.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:30
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
Fair point but what is the point to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona where he may not have much playing time (for all is potential, is he already better than Dembele, Bale, or Asencio, who are not starters?).
Should not he stay a bit longer at Dortmund or move for a couple of years to Tottenham or Liverpool, which have great coaches more keen on giving a chance to the youngsters. If he is as good as he seems, he could then move to la Liga.
Nobody said he would choose to move. It is just said they have been throwing his name around. I have read that he is very happy at Dortmund for the reasons you listed---playing time. Most teams don't regularly play such young players. He is developing great where he is.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:25
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
And Pulisic is a winger. His competition would be Asensio, Bale, Lucas Vasquez, maybe Isco. He is not better than any of them. Why are we trying to ship him off to Madrid already so he can be on the bench? He’s a starter for Dortmund. DORTMUND. That might not mean much to people who aren’t all too familiar with the game, but he already plays on one of the biggest teams in the world.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 12:07
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
Fair point but what is the point to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona where he may not have much playing time (for all is potential, is he already better than Dembele, Bale, or Asencio, who are not starters?).
Should not he stay a bit longer at Dortmund or move for a couple of years to Tottenham or Liverpool, which have great coaches more keen on giving a chance to the youngsters. If he is as good as he seems, he could then move to la Liga.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:57
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
Modric will be 36 at the next World Cup---over the hill.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:55
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Modric is 32-years old. Rakitic is 30-years old. Pulisic is only 19-years old, an age not even considered fully matured in Europe---which is mid-20s.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:53
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
... or to be on the bench of one of these two teams. Another opportunity to have a close look at Rakitic or Modric.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:52
Subject: Re:If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
^ he's young and the on-field numbers are already there, he boasts better stats than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi produced at his age. By Matchday 4, when he was still 18, he had played 60 games for Dortmund, more than Ronaldo or Messi had managed at that age. The youngest non-German player to chalk up 50 Bundesliga appearances, he has already scored ten goals in an impressive 75 games across all competitions for Die Schwarzgelben. Attempting 291 dribbles and managing a 76.2% successful pass rate in Germany’s top division offers , numbers many players with far more experience could only dream of.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
But, the bloom is off the rose. In typical American fashion, everyone is ready to sh*t on him.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:48
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or for the other country? I wonder if Christian Pulisic is back home (or well in Dortmund since pre-season is about to start) watching Croatia and thinking to himslf 'damn, I could've been there"
I am not sure he would make it in the Croatia 23. If so, he would be on the bench, watching truly great players (Modric, Rakitic, Mandzukic).
He may prefer being considered his country's best player in a generation...
I think at the end of the day, it depends whether you are likely to make it consistently in the better team. That's notably the case for European teams, where many players of African descent choose on this basis.
I'm not one of those americans who thinks pulisic is as good as mbappe but he would start in place of ante rebic. Pulisic is rated a LOT higher than Ante Rebic. Pulisic would be in the 23 easily, if not in the XI as currently constructed.
+1
There has been very legit interest from Liverpool and Barcelona I heard.
It is said he may be the first American to play in La Liga.
Yes. He’s that good. Been following him closely since the start—played with a parent at GMU.
Wow, who has been saying he would be the first American to play in La Liga? There haven't been many but certainly some before even if he was to get the chance. Sometimes I feel like many in this country just talk without really knowing the global game. I knew this statement was wrong and all it took was a simple google search to get the exact names and some even in D2. Not only that but there is a 20 year old Shaq Moore at Levante who was just recently called up to the USMNT this summer. Pulisic is good but don't make it seem like he will be the greatest ever. This country has so much potential to not only turn out more like him but even better.
Tab Ramos (Figueres D2, 1990-92; Real Betis D2, 1992-95),
Peter Vermes (Figueres D2, 1991-96)
Manny Lagos (Lleida D2, 1992)
Kasey Keller (Rayo Vallecano, 1999-2001)
Ante Razov (Racing Club de Ferrol D2, 2000-01)
Jozy Altidore (Villarreal, 2008-2011; Xerez D2, 2009)
Carlos Bocanegra (Racing Santander D2, 2012-13)
Oguchi Onyewu (Malaga, 2012-13)
The pp just had the chatter incorrect. The amongst Europeans is that both Real Madrid and Barcelona have expressed some interest in Pulisic, along with Liverpool. He would not be the first American to play in La Liga, but he would be the first American to play for FC Barcelona or Real Madrid.
Anonymous
07/05/2018 11:00
Subject: If you have a kid who is eligble to play for another country, would you want them to play for the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or for the other country? I wonder if Christian Pulisic is back home (or well in Dortmund since pre-season is about to start) watching Croatia and thinking to himslf 'damn, I could've been there"
I am not sure he would make it in the Croatia 23. If so, he would be on the bench, watching truly great players (Modric, Rakitic, Mandzukic).
He may prefer being considered his country's best player in a generation...
I think at the end of the day, it depends whether you are likely to make it consistently in the better team. That's notably the case for European teams, where many players of African descent choose on this basis.
I'm not one of those americans who thinks pulisic is as good as mbappe but he would start in place of ante rebic. Pulisic is rated a LOT higher than Ante Rebic. Pulisic would be in the 23 easily, if not in the XI as currently constructed.
+1
There has been very legit interest from Liverpool and Barcelona I heard.
It is said he may be the first American to play in La Liga.
Yes. He’s that good. Been following him closely since the start—played with a parent at GMU.
Wow, who has been saying he would be the first American to play in La Liga? There haven't been many but certainly some before even if he was to get the chance. Sometimes I feel like many in this country just talk without really knowing the global game. I knew this statement was wrong and all it took was a simple google search to get the exact names and some even in D2. Not only that but there is a 20 year old Shaq Moore at Levante who was just recently called up to the USMNT this summer. Pulisic is good but don't make it seem like he will be the greatest ever. This country has so much potential to not only turn out more like him but even better.
Tab Ramos (Figueres D2, 1990-92; Real Betis D2, 1992-95),
Peter Vermes (Figueres D2, 1991-96)
Manny Lagos (Lleida D2, 1992)
Kasey Keller (Rayo Vallecano, 1999-2001)
Ante Razov (Racing Club de Ferrol D2, 2000-01)
Jozy Altidore (Villarreal, 2008-2011; Xerez D2, 2009)
Carlos Bocanegra (Racing Santander D2, 2012-13)
Oguchi Onyewu (Malaga, 2012-13)