Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another version, our pool says you can swim the B but only get a competitor ribbon if you placed in the top 3 at the prior A meet. You can swim B for time, but not for place.

So exhibition only right? I wish our pool would allow that.

Counts for time against your place on the ladder, but it allows a chance for other kids to earn place ribbons at the developmental meets.

Anonymous wrote:In my child's large MCSL team, A meets are based on season best times. Nothing else.

They cannot swim the same stroke twice in a week (so that means that if they swam a stroke at the A meet on Saturday, they cannot swim the same stroke at the Wednesday B meet).

Everything is transparent and all results are on the OnDeck app.

Season best counting time trials or only meets? I know one team that only use time trials for the first meet only but ours uses it for the whole season. Curious which is the norm.

Anonymous wrote:Another version, our pool says you can swim the B but only get a competitor ribbon if you placed in the top 3 at the prior A meet. You can swim B for time, but not for place.

So exhibition only right? I wish our pool would allow that.

In my child's large MCSL team, A meets are based on season best times. Nothing else.

They cannot swim the same stroke twice in a week (so that means that if they swam a stroke at the A meet on Saturday, they cannot swim the same stroke at the Wednesday B meet).

Everything is transparent and all results are on the OnDeck app.

Wow!! Interesting to hear all these different rules about what kids can swim in B meets!

Another version, our pool says you can swim the B but only get a competitor ribbon if you placed in the top 3 at the prior A meet. You can swim B for time, but not for place.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

This is not an NVSL rule; it is a policy of your pool. Ours says if you place (1-3) in an A meet you can't swim that event at the next B meet.

OP, ask if you want to know. I can't imagine a swim team would not place people according to their best times, and I'm guessing there is information to which you are not privy.

Oh I didn’t realize that was a rule for my pool and not NVSL - thx!

Yes, different pools have different rules. Of the pools in our immediate area, one says kids who swam the A meet at all cannot swim that same stroke in the B meet, one says only the kids who placed in the top 3 in the A meets can't swim B and others say all the kids who are ranked among the top 5 in a stroke regardless of whether they swam in the previous meet cannot swim the B meet. This last one is the strictest rule I know. It's a very big pool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

I'm guessing it's this. The other kids simply have a faster time on the ladder.

Your DS could swim faster than the other kids in any one given meet. But if the other kids have faster times documented on the ladder, they are the ones chosen to swim the A meet.

Make sure that your DS is not DQing. If he is being disqualified for some reason then his times aren't counting.

That's my guess too. Seed time is the kids fastest time in that stroke, not their time from the most recent meet.

Anonymous wrote:At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

I'm guessing it's this. The other kids simply have a faster time on the ladder.

Your DS could swim faster than the other kids in any one given meet. But if the other kids have faster times documented on the ladder, they are the ones chosen to swim the A meet.

Make sure that your DS is not DQing. If he is being disqualified for some reason then his times aren't counting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

This is not an NVSL rule; it is a policy of your pool. Ours says if you place (1-3) in an A meet you can't swim that event at the next B meet.

OP, ask if you want to know. I can't imagine a swim team would not place people according to their best times, and I'm guessing there is information to which you are not privy.

Oh I didn’t realize that was a rule for my pool and not NVSL - thx!

Anonymous wrote:At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

This is not an NVSL rule; it is a policy of your pool. Ours says if you place (1-3) in an A meet you can't swim that event at the next B meet.

OP, ask if you want to know. I can't imagine a swim team would not place people according to their best times, and I'm guessing there is information to which you are not privy.

At our pool, the kids with the fastest times (usually on a personal-best-for-that-season basis) go to A meets. There is a ladder and it’s a transparent process more or less.

My kids swim NVSL and it’s true that if you swim a stroke at an A meet you can’t swim that stroke at the following B meet.

It really depends. Like others said they may have had better overall scores with all the strokes. I found our team to be as you describe. My kid had better times last summer and didn't get A except fill in which we choose not to do and this year he's in the A, but we haven't been doing it due to other plans as they told us early on he would not be in the A, so that allowed another child to swim.

Anonymous wrote:B meets can deceive you. Different pools/leagues may have some variety in rules, but generally the kids who swim in a meets are not allowed to swim the same stroke in b meets. So the three swimmers with fastest times in each stroke are probably not swimming that stroke at the b meet. If your kid has one of the three fastest times in a stroke, between all previous b meets, a meets and the time trials, then you should approach the coach and ask why.

Also, many swimmers who swim at A meets have fast times in multiple strokes, so even though they are limited to 2 individual events they may have fastest established times in other strokes as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B meets can deceive you. Different pools/leagues may have some variety in rules, but generally the kids who swim in a meets are not allowed to swim the same stroke in b meets. So the three swimmers with fastest times in each stroke are probably not swimming that stroke at the b meet. If your kid has one of the three fastest times in a stroke, between all previous b meets, a meets and the time trials, then you should approach the coach and ask why.

This. My son placed 1st in a B meet and didn’t make the A meet because there are 3 faster boys his age group in that stroke who just didn’t come to the B meet because they had swim in the A meet. Had they been there my son wouldn’t have placed 1st.

+1, DD in same situation except placed 2nd in B meet but didn't make the A meet.