Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 13:15     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
ODP has run its course. Treat it as extra touches on the ball, but don't get caught up in the recruiting angle, no one is recruiting out of ODP anymore.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 11:17     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ODP provides decent training, tournament competition, maybe a first opportunity to travel without parents, and a bigger player network opportunity.


If you are a parent and are allowing your kid to travel without you at this age you are nuts. Beyond soccer crazy parent nuts.


It's OK. My helicopter follows the team bus. In stealth mode. Like Airwolf.


At what age exactly is it nuts?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 11:15     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ODP provides decent training, tournament competition, maybe a first opportunity to travel without parents, and a bigger player network opportunity.


If you are a parent and are allowing your kid to travel without you at this age you are nuts. Beyond soccer crazy parent nuts.


It's OK. My helicopter follows the team bus. In stealth mode. Like Airwolf.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 08:26     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:ODP provides decent training, tournament competition, maybe a first opportunity to travel without parents, and a bigger player network opportunity.


If you are a parent and are allowing your kid to travel without you at this age you are nuts. Beyond soccer crazy parent nuts.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 08:04     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they don't consider re-branding it. I don't know that I want to see the program go away, but it I don't see it surviving the way that it is.


I think it would be useful for ODP to go into the areas where kids don't have easy access to soccer training. There are huge swaths of the country where there are few or no clubs or leagues. It would be great if ODP could be the program that introduces kids to soccer in those areas.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 07:36     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
I wonder why they don't consider re-branding it. I don't know that I want to see the program go away, but it I don't see it surviving the way that it is.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2018 20:25     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:ODP was hit hard by DAs. Also, some top level non-DA players were turned off by rampant politics in player selections. And, yes, USSF does not scout ODP for youth national teams. If you want to be scouted, you have to be in DA or in an academy abroad. ODP is a good option for a good player on an average team, who may not be sufficiently challenged at his club and whose family is willing to pay for extra training. Older age group selections have a lot of B team players so I think the tryouts this year were less competitive than in the past.


Yeah, it's a shame about the politics. I love it as a supplement in the spring because of the gap in club soccer for high school soccer, but I'm having a hard time justifying it. I'm not sure that we can do another year, unless the state ODP stuff knocks my socks off this spring.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2018 17:29     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
ODP was hit hard by DAs. Also, some top level non-DA players were turned off by rampant politics in player selections. And, yes, USSF does not scout ODP for youth national teams. If you want to be scouted, you have to be in DA or in an academy abroad. ODP is a good option for a good player on an average team, who may not be sufficiently challenged at his club and whose family is willing to pay for extra training. Older age group selections have a lot of B team players so I think the tryouts this year were less competitive than in the past.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2018 17:11     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
ODP update: ODP has gone way down from its glory days. The number of training sessions has gone down, the price has gone up, and the quality of participants has gone down. Should ODP try to re-brand itself? Or is it time to call it quits?

The concept is neat, but it seems the DA is taking its toll on the program.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2018 18:05     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Anonymous wrote:Because most parents? don't want the truth and they know the FOMO will keep them paying. Parents get caught up at U10 in it and want to think it is something special, otherwise no one would do it. Very average training for what you pay in time and money.


Maybe at U10 I agree, but when they get to high school, it is certainly a step up from school ball. That’s the most relevant part to ODP Plus the team trips to events are good for the players.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2018 16:56     Subject: What's wrong with ODP?
Because most parents? don't want the truth and they know the FOMO will keep them paying. Parents get caught up at U10 in it and want to think it is something special, otherwise no one would do it. Very average training for what you pay in time and money.