Anonymous
06/28/2018 08:31
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Be careful what you wish for.
If the court rules that colleges can't consider race to achieve a balanced student body, they are going to use different criteria to achieve that goal, and you will probably see Asian representation go down rather than up.
They'll use geography, income levels, or some other thing to achieve the goal, and that will likely result in a balance that is more similar to population percentages.
Colleges like Harvard are not going to default to grades and test scores to build their class. It will not happen, regardless of any court decision.
I mean ONLY grades and test scores, clicked submit too soon. They are not going to say "we can't consider race anymore, so we'll take all the 36 ACTs and no 34s."
repeat: Be careful what you wish for.
Anonymous
06/28/2018 08:29
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Be careful what you wish for.
If the court rules that colleges can't consider race to achieve a balanced student body, they are going to use different criteria to achieve that goal, and you will probably see Asian representation go down rather than up.
They'll use geography, income levels, or some other thing to achieve the goal, and that will likely result in a balance that is more similar to population percentages.
Colleges like Harvard are not going to default to grades and test scores to build their class. It will not happen, regardless of any court decision.
If the court rules that colleges can't consider race to achieve a balanced student body, they are going to use different criteria to achieve that goal, and you will probably see Asian representation go down rather than up.
They'll use geography, income levels, or some other thing to achieve the goal, and that will likely result in a balance that is more similar to population percentages.
Colleges like Harvard are not going to default to grades and test scores to build their class. It will not happen, regardless of any court decision.
Anonymous
06/28/2018 08:26
Subject: Re:Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
The retirement of Kennedy, J. will probably have no bearing on affirmative action. This is not a hot button issue for the GOP. Based on the list of his potential replacements, we will get a new Justice who will either be a little to his right or a little to his left. Their views on affirmative action are unknown. But I think it’s not going anywhere. The current approach works quite well.
Anonymous
06/28/2018 08:13
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
+ a million!Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I couldn’t care less about an over-represented group wanting even more representation based on their 11th SAT score. Our very democracy is now under threat! This is not a top priority!
Anonymous
06/28/2018 07:53
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
THIS is your big worry about Kennedy's retirement?
Anonymous
06/28/2018 06:42
Subject: Re:Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Test scores have lead the top school down that path of less innovative and less impressive alum. So yes they need to find another way to find the best and the brightest.
They need people that cure cancer, win noble prizes, change the world, become world leaders.
They don't need more doctors and bankers.
They don't need more doctors??
Of course you have heard of the huge doctor shortage in America.
No we don't need more primary care physicians, not from Harvard. We need research scientist, leaders, entrepreneurs.
Anonymous
06/28/2018 04:10
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Yea, from someone talking tears comes constant whining.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 18:42
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I couldn’t care less about an over-represented group wanting even more representation based on their 11th SAT score. Our very democracy is now under threat! This is not a top priority!
LOL! I love liberal tears
The very best tears.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 18:31
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
If that’s what they need to do to do the right thing then they will. Because they try to do the right thing. Hard for some people to grasp that.
Conservatives can’t take ALL of us down the gutter on their way to hell.
Conservatives can’t take ALL of us down the gutter on their way to hell.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 18:23
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:California school systems never went that rout. Even CalTech refused. They simply followed the law.
indeed and did it hurt the UC school's or CalTech's reputation that they let in so many Asians with high test scores? Nope.
So if they get rid of test scores, what academic merit do they look at ... grades? They'd have to also look at what HS you went to because not all A's are are created equal, and I'm guessing that a lot of the students at rigorous HS who get straight As are.... Asian American.
Next, they'll make GPAs optional.
maybe just sex, race, and a high school diploma?
Anonymous
06/27/2018 18:21
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I couldn’t care less about an over-represented group wanting even more representation based on their 11th SAT score. Our very democracy is now under threat! This is not a top priority!
LOL! I love liberal tears
CalTech, UCLA, and UC Berkeley don't have a problem with that.
CalTech > Harvard
UCLA, UC Berkeley = Harvard.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 18:14
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I couldn’t care less about an over-represented group wanting even more representation based on their 11th SAT score. Our very democracy is now under threat! This is not a top priority!
LOL! I love liberal tears
Anonymous
06/27/2018 17:46
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many schools outside top-10 value Asian students. They are less likely to exclude or drive them away.
Schools outside of the top 10 definitely still cap Asian enrollment.
UC Berkeley and UCLA are #21s in the USNews. No AA at these schools. These schools may reject Ivy admit students. Jeremy Lin went to Harvard after he was denied by UCLA.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 17:45
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many schools outside top-10 value Asian students. They are less likely to exclude or drive them away.
Schools outside of the top 10 definitely still cap Asian enrollment.
Not in their interest to do so if they valueo high-achieving, high-stats students.
I think it'll change, but as of now, they practice the same shenanigans as Harvard does.
Anonymous
06/27/2018 17:44
Subject: Will top 25 schools all go test optional due to Anthony Kennedy retiring?
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about an over-represented group wanting even more representation based on their 11th SAT score. Our very democracy is now under threat! This is not a top priority!