Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:27
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Asian kids should boycott school and rise up against Tiger Moms who hijack their childhoods and force them into studying 7 days a week until the can't think an original thought and no clue what their own dreams are.
My kid has friends with Asian moms who try to be Tiger moms but mostly burn out and go with the flow. The moms are very worried about discrimination, but, so far, the kids have done fine and ended up at the desired test schools. Maybe the reality is that a lot of schools that try to discriminate are lazy, too, and end up going with the flow and opening up to great kids who happen to have Asian surnames.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:24
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won't be the kids that boycott, it will be the hiring managers and graduate admissions committees.
a) The reason for demand for these schools is that these schools are viewed as a golden ticket to wealth and power.
b) They are viewed that way because of hiring preferentially from those schools.
c) Hiring is from those schools because admissions practices allow hiring managers to use admission to those schools as a proxy for intelligence.
d) Admissions practices have changed to de-emphasize intelligence in favor of other factors.
e) Admission to these schools cannot be viewed a s proxy for intelligence.
f) Hiring preference will end or decrease.
g) Demand for the schools will decrease.
This is correct.
Let the game play out. Pretty soon those schools will not be associated as having a student population of superior intellectual capacity but with students from wealthy, elite “pay to play” type families sprinkled with the ‘right kind’ of minority to appear as though they value everyone.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:22
Subject: Re:Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Not just Asians, everyone should boycott universities with intentionally discriminatory admission policies. Even if you 'benefit' from the practice, is that really how you want to win? And do you really want the prize? The racism never stops at the door.
Consider 22 percent Asian is about triple their percent of population. The real issue is harvard discriminates against non-Asians
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:21
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Students should take a common sense approach in creating approximately 10 common app. colleges to apply. If Harvard doesn't have a history of welcoming Asian students, it makes more sense to replace it with schools that do.
That said, I am inclined to believe there are great many SLACs that have relatively low Asian acceptances - less to do with discrimination - more to do with the fact that Asians are enamored of Harvard and Ivy League. These are the schools that Asians should be focused if they want to increase their chances at top schools. These schools are just as good, if not better, than Harvard and other Ivy League schools.
In what universe is 22% of enrollees "not welcoming?"
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:20
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Yes just apply to schools just base admissions on test scores and nothing else. The students would find their best fit.
What if the schools want some kids who know where commas go?
The tests don't really evaluate that these days. What do colleges do about important areas of academic knowledge not in the tests?
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:15
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Students should take a common sense approach in creating approximately 10 common app. colleges to apply. If Harvard doesn't have a history of welcoming Asian students, it makes more sense to replace it with schools that do.
That said, I am inclined to believe there are great many SLACs that have relatively low Asian acceptances - less to do with discrimination - more to do with the fact that Asians are enamored of Harvard and Ivy League. These are the schools that Asians should be focused if they want to increase their chances at top schools. These schools are just as good, if not better, than Harvard and other Ivy League schools.
That said, I am inclined to believe there are great many SLACs that have relatively low Asian acceptances - less to do with discrimination - more to do with the fact that Asians are enamored of Harvard and Ivy League. These are the schools that Asians should be focused if they want to increase their chances at top schools. These schools are just as good, if not better, than Harvard and other Ivy League schools.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 14:00
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1. There are just so many seats at HYP. You have some. You can't have them all. No one is the only game in town. There are others in this game too.Anonymous wrote:Yes, please do! More room for the rest of us! When will you move on and live your life! Get over the Ivy League why don’t you!
Do we apply this logic to other races and demographics too, or is it just the Asians that need to get over it?
To those crossing at the border: when will you move on and live your life! Get over the immigration thing why don’t you! There is just so many the US can handle. You have some. You can’t have them all. The US is not the only game in town. There are other countries in this game too.
Gay people: when will you move on and live your life! Get over the bakery owners, why don’t you! There are just so many cakes they can make. No bakery is the only bakery in town. There are others you can go to.
The Supreme Court just rules on the cakes. You can't force a bakery to make you a cake...and you can't get into Harvard without a personality.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:58
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Yes, but what’s the rationale for treating it as the dividing line between acceptable and unacceptable admissions practices?
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:57
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Asian kids should boycott school and rise up against Tiger Moms who hijack their childhoods and force them into studying 7 days a week until the can't think an original thought and no clue what their own dreams are.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:46
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Why 22%?
Not OP, but that happens to be the percent enrolled at Harvard the last two years.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:13
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Asians should boycott all colleges and live a normal life, deprogram and explore their true selves.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:04
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Black people: if Starbucks doesn’t want you in their coffee shop, move on. Get over it.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:03
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
We'll certainly see what happens, that's for sure. Life is interesting that way.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:02
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:+1. There are just so many seats at HYP. You have some. You can't have them all. No one is the only game in town. There are others in this game too.Anonymous wrote:Yes, please do! More room for the rest of us! When will you move on and live your life! Get over the Ivy League why don’t you!
Do we apply this logic to other races and demographics too, or is it just the Asians that need to get over it?
To those crossing at the border: when will you move on and live your life! Get over the immigration thing why don’t you! There is just so many the US can handle. You have some. You can’t have them all. The US is not the only game in town. There are other countries in this game too.
Gay people: when will you move on and live your life! Get over the bakery owners, why don’t you! There are just so many cakes they can make. No bakery is the only bakery in town. There are others you can go to.
Anonymous
06/23/2018 13:01
Subject: Should Asians boycott some elite universities that practice holistic admissions?
Anonymous wrote:It won't be the kids that boycott, it will be the hiring managers and graduate admissions committees.
a) The reason for demand for these schools is that these schools are viewed as a golden ticket to wealth and power.
b) They are viewed that way because of hiring preferentially from those schools.
c) Hiring is from those schools because admissions practices allow hiring managers to use admission to those schools as a proxy for intelligence.
d) Admissions practices have changed to de-emphasize intelligence in favor of other factors.
e) Admission to these schools cannot be viewed a s proxy for intelligence.
f) Hiring preference will end or decrease.
g) Demand for the schools will decrease.
This is correct.
Let the game play out. Pretty soon those schools will not be associated as having a student population of superior intellectual capacity but with students from wealthy, elite “pay to play” type families sprinkled with the ‘right kind’ of minority to appear as though they value everyone.