Anonymous
06/20/2018 18:09
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
It is not ignorance to categorize pit bulls as a dangerous breed. They are responsible for the vast majority of maulings and deaths of humans and other animals.
It is ignorant and dangerous to pretend that pitbulls are just as safe as any other breed.
PP here. Can pit bulls be dangerous and maul/kill people? Absolutely. So can other large breeds. You're ignoring the reasons why pit bulls often end up in these situations: people. From the same study I linked in another reply: "It should also be considered that the incidence of pit bull-type dogs' involvement in severe and fatal attacks may represent high prevalence in neighborhoods that present high risk to the young children who are the most common victim of severe or fatal attacks. And as owners of stigmatized breeds are more likely to have involvement in criminal and/or violent acts—breed correlations may have the owner's behavior as the underlying causal factor." And the same can be said for any other breed. Pit bulls just have the misfortune of being born with big, muscular bodies and a strong bite, whereas an aggressive dog of a smaller breed simply can't inflict the same damage.
So to the original question, sure you can find a boarder that doesn't allow pit bulls or "dangerous" breeds and make every effort to avoid them in life, but when your dog gets attacked by a golden retriever (there is literally an aggressive GR in my neighborhood that my neighbor has had multiple incidents with) because you had no worries about that breed staying at your kennel or happily let your dog run up to one on the street, your ignorance will be to blame.
Other breed can but do not, with very, very rare exception
Other dog breeds do not kill, dismember and eat their owners for sport.
Other dogs don't disembowel their owners.
Other dogs don't dismember children for sneezing.
Other dogs do not kill horses on a whim.
It is the breed and to say otherwise is dangerous and stupid.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 18:06
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
It is not ignorance to categorize pit bulls as a dangerous breed. They are responsible for the vast majority of maulings and deaths of humans and other animals.
It is ignorant and dangerous to pretend that pitbulls are just as safe as any other breed.
+1 And the most vulnerable--usually innocent children walking through a neighborhood or playing outside--pay a terrible, horrific price far too often.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 17:51
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
It is not ignorance to categorize pit bulls as a dangerous breed. They are responsible for the vast majority of maulings and deaths of humans and other animals.
It is ignorant and dangerous to pretend that pitbulls are just as safe as any other breed.
+1 There's a reason beagles have traditionally been used in research labs, as opposed to pit bulls.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 17:49
Subject: Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Funny my lab was injured by a golden doodle during daycare. We steer clear of them and always wonder why people have that "breed."
But the rest of us know that typically golden doodles (and labs) aren't responsible for the mauling, disfiguring, and killing of children and old people.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 17:48
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
As a dog lover, I understand your response and it depends on the owner, but let's be honest...cocker spaniels, beagles, Cavaliers, and poodles are't usually aggressive dogs that maul kids.
Except they are. Google the statistics about aggression and instances of bites. From the study linked below: "Based on behavioral assessments and owner surveys the breeds that were more aggressive towards people were small to medium-sized dogs such as the collies, toy breeds and spaniels." The only difference is that when a pit bull bites, the results are more severe because they are physiologically stronger and larger than the breeds you listed. This is the same reason pit bulls are taken advantage of and used for fighting.
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/LiteratureReviews/Pages/The-Role-of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx
The top three are German shepherds, mixed breed and pit bulls.
How many of those German shepherds were working at the time of the incident (police, guard) i.e. how many of these were not authorized/justified bites?
How many of the mixed breeds are part pit bull?
Oh, come on, I'm sure they corrected for "justified" bites German Shepherds. As for mixed breeds being part pit bull, I mean perhaps, but how many of these bites came from pit bulls who had been mistreated, trained to be aggressive/fight, etc. The larger point here is that as a breed, biologically, pit bulls are not wired to be any more or less aggressive than others, and people's focus on pit bulls is going to get them or their own dogs bitten by another breed they don't suspect.
Well for example, the first reference I pulled up from that article was from a SINGLE hospital in Switzerland and included all dog bites presented, not differentiating by working dog/licensed dog. Obviously the distribution of breeds of dogs is going to vary by geographic area!
Here's a study of dog bites in the US (not Switzerland), 1958-2016 showing pit bulls overtaking German shepherds for dog bites, something that has held true since 2001.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5636534/
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:20
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
It is not ignorance to categorize pit bulls as a dangerous breed. They are responsible for the vast majority of maulings and deaths of humans and other animals.
It is ignorant and dangerous to pretend that pitbulls are just as safe as any other breed.
PP here. Can pit bulls be dangerous and maul/kill people? Absolutely. So can other large breeds. You're ignoring the reasons why pit bulls often end up in these situations: people. From the same study I linked in another reply: "It should also be considered that the incidence of pit bull-type dogs' involvement in severe and fatal attacks may represent high prevalence in neighborhoods that present high risk to the young children who are the most common victim of severe or fatal attacks. And as owners of stigmatized breeds are more likely to have involvement in criminal and/or violent acts—breed correlations may have the owner's behavior as the underlying causal factor." And the same can be said for any other breed. Pit bulls just have the misfortune of being born with big, muscular bodies and a strong bite, whereas an aggressive dog of a smaller breed simply can't inflict the same damage.
So to the original question, sure you can find a boarder that doesn't allow pit bulls or "dangerous" breeds and make every effort to avoid them in life, but when your dog gets attacked by a golden retriever (there is literally an aggressive GR in my neighborhood that my neighbor has had multiple incidents with) because you had no worries about that breed staying at your kennel or happily let your dog run up to one on the street, your ignorance will be to blame.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:18
Subject: Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:OP, are you talking about cageless boarding/doggy daycare? If so, I don't trust 99% of those for ANY dog. Just too much stimulation. A true boarding facility with kennels should be staffed and managed such that dogs never interact.
But is is so much fun for the dogs to play with other dogs.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:10
Subject: Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Funny my lab was injured by a golden doodle during daycare. We steer clear of them and always wonder why people have that "breed."
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:08
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
It is not ignorance to categorize pit bulls as a dangerous breed. They are responsible for the vast majority of maulings and deaths of humans and other animals.
It is ignorant and dangerous to pretend that pitbulls are just as safe as any other breed.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:02
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
As a dog lover, I understand your response and it depends on the owner, but let's be honest...cocker spaniels, beagles, Cavaliers, and poodles are't usually aggressive dogs that maul kids.
Except they are. Google the statistics about aggression and instances of bites. From the study linked below: "Based on behavioral assessments and owner surveys the breeds that were more aggressive towards people were small to medium-sized dogs such as the collies, toy breeds and spaniels." The only difference is that when a pit bull bites, the results are more severe because they are physiologically stronger and larger than the breeds you listed. This is the same reason pit bulls are taken advantage of and used for fighting.
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/LiteratureReviews/Pages/The-Role-of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx
The top three are German shepherds, mixed breed and pit bulls.
How many of those German shepherds were working at the time of the incident (police, guard) i.e. how many of these were not authorized/justified bites?
How many of the mixed breeds are part pit bull?
Oh, come on, I'm sure they corrected for "justified" bites German Shepherds. As for mixed breeds being part pit bull, I mean perhaps, but how many of these bites came from pit bulls who had been mistreated, trained to be aggressive/fight, etc. The larger point here is that as a breed, biologically, pit bulls are not wired to be any more or less aggressive than others, and people's focus on pit bulls is going to get them or their own dogs bitten by another breed they don't suspect.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 15:51
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignoring the ignorance of you categorizing entire breeds as dangerous, reputable boarders take precautions to ensure they only accept socialized dogs that get along well with others. I have a dog aggressive dog (because he's a rescued fighting dog) and I would never board him - I assume most other owners with "problem" dogs feel the same way. Your doodle will be fine.
You and your dog have matching personalities.
I'm aggressive because I gave a helpful response to the question and then actually followed up with a recommendation for the service I use for my dog if OP is really that concerned about boarding?
My dog's "personality" is gentle and loving to people despite having been horribly abused by them, so I'll take that as a compliment.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 14:01
Subject: Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
I feel like our local doggy boarding/daycare place does a very good job of evaluating the dogs during their one day "interview". They seem to know the dogs very well, and I trust that all pets including the Dobermans and shepherds and pit bulls have been thoroughly vetted for friendliness before they are let in with the other dogs.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 13:54
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
Anonymous wrote:PP here - I'll also add that pet sitting IS an option if you're that concerned. We use Rover to find sitters who can accommodate our dog (he stays at their home).
+1
Anonymous
06/20/2018 13:49
Subject: Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
OP, are you talking about cageless boarding/doggy daycare? If so, I don't trust 99% of those for ANY dog. Just too much stimulation. A true boarding facility with kennels should be staffed and managed such that dogs never interact.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 13:30
Subject: Re:Are you concerned about dangerous breeds when boarding dog?
I chose a place that doesn't have dogs free roaming, and I don't allow my dog to do the "camp" or "doggy daycare" part of boarding. He gets individual play time with an employee, which he prefers anyway. He was almost fatally bitten by my neighbor's "friendly" German Shepherd and I just don't trust dogs together in that kind of environment. He goes to Best Friends. I looked into some of the fancier places where dogs have free play and I just didn't feel comfortable, especially since a few of them had a dog fatality at some point where a bigger dog got hold of a smaller dog. Just not worth it to me.