Anonymous wrote:Here’s a story from 2014, do you recall who was President then?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5531552

OMG Barack Adolf Obama ... Why didn't he do something with this horrible law?

Vox has an excellent article outlining the facts as we know them about the new family separation policy. It is not at all hyperbolic. Having said that there is one part of the article that I found to be extremely disturbing:

"5) Are families being reunited?

Some have been. But the government is sending very mixed signals about how families can be reunited — and whether the Trump administration is even trying to make that happen at all.

In an ACLU lawsuit over the separation of families in immigration detention, a DOJ official told the judge that “once a parent is in ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] custody and the child is taken into the Health and Human Services system, the government does not try to reunite them, and instead attempts to place the child with another relative in the United States — if the child has one.”

That isn’t what ICE and DHS say. They claim that once parents have finished their criminal sentences for illegal entry or reentry, they can be reunited with their children in civil immigration detention while they pursue their asylum case.

They don’t appear to have a system to bring families back together.
One flyer given to parents in Texas offered a number to call to locate children. But the number was wrong: Instead of being a number for ORR, it was an ICE tip line. (The flyers had to be corrected in pen.) And even if a parent can call ORR and ORR can identify the child, they might not be able to call the parent back — because immigrants in detention don’t have phone access. (Federal judges sentencing immigrants have urged the government to make sure that they have access to phones so they can relocate their kids.)

The plaintiffs in the ACLU’s family-separation lawsuit are one woman separated from her child for eight months after she presented herself for asylum at a port of entry, and another woman who was sentenced to a brief jail term for illegal entry but couldn’t be reunited with her child for months after her release back to DHS custody.

Some parents are being deported without their children. And some small children, according to advocates in Central America, are getting deported without their parents."

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents

If this ends up being a permanent separation of families, this is even more horrific than we thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking asylum is not even a misdemeanor.

True. All Deplorables in this thread, repeat after me: “Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime.”

So why separate kids and parents into separate concentration camps when they have not committed a crime?

Just stop. You are making yourself look stupid. Turn of MSNBC.

NP here. Technically, they are concentration camps. The Nazis things often called concentration camps were actually death camps.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a story from 2014, do you recall who was President then?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5531552

You must be really stupid if you don't see the irony in citing the huffington post. (so, yes, people care that this happens, no matter who is president)

Didvthe medis compare obama to hitler?

Fox News did. I know you don't consider them "the media", but they are. Other right wing media outlets have, as well.

Anonymous wrote:What I love about our country is that the same laws apply equally to all people.

It is now common knowledge that illegal immigration into the United States is being treated as the crime that it legally is. When an adult with a minor child commits a crime, they are detained. Part of that detention is that someone has to take care of their minor children.

Many minor children of detained people --US citizens included, end up in foster care. But while they are waiting for their foster parents, they are placed in group homes. The children's detention center is a very large group home.

So, as a parent, knowing that illegal immigration is no longer tolerated in the US and that you will be separated from your child,

why do you as the adult still make the decision to commit the crime?

lLIAR. Asylum seeker are here legally.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a story from 2014, do you recall who was President then?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5531552

You must be really stupid if you don't see the irony in citing the huffington post. (so, yes, people care that this happens, no matter who is president)

Didvthe medis compare obama to hitler?

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a story from 2014, do you recall who was President then?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5531552

You must be really stupid if you don't see the irony in citing the huffington post. (so, yes, people care that this happens, no matter who is president)

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Anonymous wrote:Right. And Obama was criticized then, as the article states. It's been a problem in the immigration policy area for awhile, although this situation is a little different in that the U.S. children were with other relatives and out in the community. Not a tent or a Walmart.

However, it just underscores that our values don't change just because there is a different president.

What’s worse separating citizens from their parents or recent illegal aliens from their parents?

Immigration status doesn't matter. Family does. Humans do. Aren't you all supposed to be pro-family?

So you believe this for all crimes? Rob a bank and you can’t be separated from kids?

The kids are usually placed with family or next to kin, if possible, when the guardian commits a crime.

I favor deporting the descendants of all the wogs, wops, guidos, krauts, kykes, and greens n-gers, who entered the US illegally over the last 200 years. And, after showing up here, these "other" people did nothing but form mafias in our cities. For those law and order types, get a life! Trump and his fellow mafia types have broken more serious laws.

Anonymous wrote:What I love about our country is that the same laws apply equally to all people.

It is now common knowledge that illegal immigration into the United States is being treated as the crime that it legally is. When an adult with a minor child commits a crime, they are detained. Part of that detention is that someone has to take care of their minor children.

Many minor children of detained people --US citizens included, end up in foster care. But while they are waiting for their foster parents, they are placed in group homes. The children's detention center is a very large group home.

So, as a parent, knowing that illegal immigration is no longer tolerated in the US and that you will be separated from your child, why do you as the adult still make the decision to commit the crime?

Because the situation they are fleeing is that bad. The Trump Administration hasn’t figured this out yet.

What I love about our country is that the same laws apply equally to all people.

It is now common knowledge that illegal immigration into the United States is being treated as the crime that it legally is. When an adult with a minor child commits a crime, they are detained. Part of that detention is that someone has to take care of their minor children.

Many minor children of detained people --US citizens included, end up in foster care. But while they are waiting for their foster parents, they are placed in group homes. The children's detention center is a very large group home.

So, as a parent, knowing that illegal immigration is no longer tolerated in the US and that you will be separated from your child, why do you as the adult still make the decision to commit the crime?

Anonymous wrote:How do you know they aren’t coming through a lawful port of entry?

Plenty of them are. Including “the caravan.”

How do you know they aren’t coming through a lawful port of entry?

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking asylum is not even a misdemeanor.

True. All Deplorables in this thread, repeat after me: “Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime.”

So why separate kids and parents into separate concentration camps when they have not committed a crime?

you still have to enter through a lawful port of entry

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seeking asylum is not even a misdemeanor.

True. All Deplorables in this thread, repeat after me: “Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime.”

So why separate kids and parents into separate concentration camps when they have not committed a crime?

Just stop. You are making yourself look stupid. Turn of MSNBC.

MSNBC has never said anything about concnetration camps. Now you're making yourself look stupid.