Anonymous
Post 06/17/2018 10:42     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:Munchausens or Munchausens by Proxy means more than faking illness or having attention seeking behaviors that involve faking illness. It means the mother or person is inducing illness (with poison or toxins or some such thing) in themselves or their child). Or forcing the child to use a wheelchair when the child can walk. That's why it's the crime of assault.

Just taking your child to the ER a lot on the grounds that you think your child is seriously ill when others might disagree is not a crime or grounds for calling CPS. Neither is posting pics of your kids in the ER. Might not be appropriate, but it's not illegal nor is it Munchausens.


When you are documenting your families on going health crisis/unsolved mysteries on Instagram and Facebook it starts to get more than people thoughts and prayers - people start to wonder.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2018 10:40     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:Munchausen by Proxy is very rare, but it is absolutely missed in some families, and incorrectly diagnosed in others. They only real way to diagnose it is to either have a credible witness who has seen the parent doing harm to the child, or having a hidden camera in a hospital room to catch the parent in the act.

Although I'm no expert, I also believe there's a gray area there where a parent will diagnose their own child and apply a heavy treatment (say a severe dietary restriction) which is not specifically harmful to the child's health but is emotionally and socially damaging. The parent will then spend a huge amount of time and energy being an activist for the child's "condition". This one is kind of hard to single out as a criminal act but it's definitely bad for the child.


This.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2018 10:38     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have debilitating chronic migraines and I don’t get any narcotics for them. Neuros don’t usually give narcotics for migraine. So many people want to assume you are a faker who wants drugs...it is weird given that is not a typical treatment at all.


Some people do get opioids for migraines.


It is not a typical treatment at all.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2018 10:37     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:I have debilitating chronic migraines and I don’t get any narcotics for them. Neuros don’t usually give narcotics for migraine. So many people want to assume you are a faker who wants drugs...it is weird given that is not a typical treatment at all.


Some people do get opioids for migraines.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2018 08:28     Subject: Munchhausen

I have debilitating chronic migraines and I don’t get any narcotics for them. Neuros don’t usually give narcotics for migraine. So many people want to assume you are a faker who wants drugs...it is weird given that is not a typical treatment at all.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2018 05:28     Subject: Munchhausen

Munchausens or Munchausens by Proxy means more than faking illness or having attention seeking behaviors that involve faking illness. It means the mother or person is inducing illness (with poison or toxins or some such thing) in themselves or their child). Or forcing the child to use a wheelchair when the child can walk. That's why it's the crime of assault.

Just taking your child to the ER a lot on the grounds that you think your child is seriously ill when others might disagree is not a crime or grounds for calling CPS. Neither is posting pics of your kids in the ER. Might not be appropriate, but it's not illegal nor is it Munchausens.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2018 00:55     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:Munchausen by Proxy is very rare, but it is absolutely missed in some families, and incorrectly diagnosed in others. They only real way to diagnose it is to either have a credible witness who has seen the parent doing harm to the child, or having a hidden camera in a hospital room to catch the parent in the act.

Although I'm no expert, I also believe there's a gray area there where a parent will diagnose their own child and apply a heavy treatment (say a severe dietary restriction) which is not specifically harmful to the child's health but is emotionally and socially damaging. The parent will then spend a huge amount of time and energy being an activist for the child's "condition". This one is kind of hard to single out as a criminal act but it's definitely bad for the child.


A parent feeds their kid what they feel is best - in a way that is not harmful to the child's health - and you think it's a "gray area" related to Munchausen syndrome?

SMH.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 22:53     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:CPS. How is this even a question?


Doctors have seen this Mom and kids and haven't called CPS apparently. It seems like they would be the ones to take action.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 14:00     Subject: Munchhausen

CPS. How is this even a question?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 13:59     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Everyone who knows this person suspects Munchhaysens and knows she is an addict- but her mom backs her up and no one will confront her. She fakes Migraines among other thing to get drugs. She even got a hysterectomy to get drugs. She has kids who have unsolved illnesses. She posts pics online of her and her kids in the ER to get attention, but everyone suspects Munchhausens. This has gone on for years and years. She keeps changing Doctors so I guess no one connects the dots. Hope someone gets a clue.


Wait - she is the OP of the fake migraines post??


It sure sounds like it.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 13:38     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Everyone who knows this person suspects Munchhaysens and knows she is an addict- but her mom backs her up and no one will confront her. She fakes Migraines among other thing to get drugs. She even got a hysterectomy to get drugs. She has kids who have unsolved illnesses. She posts pics online of her and her kids in the ER to get attention, but everyone suspects Munchhausens. This has gone on for years and years. She keeps changing Doctors so I guess no one connects the dots. Hope someone gets a clue.


Wait - she is the OP of the fake migraines post??
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 13:37     Subject: Munchhausen

Given that, I don't think there is much you can do, OP. If you have a particular concern about child safety for something you have direct knowledge of, your should make a report with child protective services. If you are unsure, you can call CPS and ask if what you know is reportable.

Many states have moved to a controlled substances prescription monitoring program, where prescribers are required to run a background check on patterns of controlled substance prescriptions and filling patterns for individual patients. If she is behaving inappropriately with seeking controlled drugs or filling different doctor's scripts at the same time, she will be found out.

But people are allowed to be drama-seeking and exaggerate or lie. Again, not much you can do.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 11:46     Subject: Munchhausen

OP here. Everyone who knows this person suspects Munchhaysens and knows she is an addict- but her mom backs her up and no one will confront her. She fakes Migraines among other thing to get drugs. She even got a hysterectomy to get drugs. She has kids who have unsolved illnesses. She posts pics online of her and her kids in the ER to get attention, but everyone suspects Munchhausens. This has gone on for years and years. She keeps changing Doctors so I guess no one connects the dots. Hope someone gets a clue.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 11:21     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there a central list somewhereh of people suspected of Munchhausen syndrome by proxy?

Why do you ask?[/quote]

This is an important question.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2018 11:06     Subject: Munchhausen

Anonymous wrote:Is there a central list somewhereh of people suspected of Munchhausen syndrome by proxy?

Why do you ask?