Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:49
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think that permission has to be given to photograph children and the photos have to be shared with the parents who have to approve distribution.
(We got into this when a program sent out a photo of my DD in a bathing suit as part of a fundraising mailing to a large organization without our permission).
A photo provided to parents, school administrators, and specialists is not distribution.
And a photo of a child having a behavior episode is not the same as a photo of a child in a bathing suit.
It is distribution.
As a teacher, we ask for permission to distribute photos (e.g. put them on the school website, or in a publication) but if I'm taking a photo to document something for a child's own
For example, if I take a photo and use that photo as the basis for a child's self portrait that is sent home at the end of the unit, I don't consider that distribution. If a parent misses an award ceremony, and I snap a picture of the kid on stage, and email parents, I don't consider that distribution.
Recently, I took a video of a child using some technology to solve a math problem. I emailed it to parents and said "Look what your child can do!" I then asked permission to show it other students who were working on the same skill. To me the first part didn't require permission, but the second part did.
Obviously the first paragraph should say for
if I'm taking a photo to document something for a child's own use or own parents, then the rules about distribution don't apply.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:48
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think that permission has to be given to photograph children and the photos have to be shared with the parents who have to approve distribution.
(We got into this when a program sent out a photo of my DD in a bathing suit as part of a fundraising mailing to a large organization without our permission).
A photo provided to parents, school administrators, and specialists is not distribution.
And a photo of a child having a behavior episode is not the same as a photo of a child in a bathing suit.
It is distribution.
As a teacher, we ask for permission to distribute photos (e.g. put them on the school website, or in a publication) but if I'm taking a photo to document something for a child's own
For example, if I take a photo and use that photo as the basis for a child's self portrait that is sent home at the end of the unit, I don't consider that distribution. If a parent misses an award ceremony, and I snap a picture of the kid on stage, and email parents, I don't consider that distribution.
Recently, I took a video of a child using some technology to solve a math problem. I emailed it to parents and said "Look what your child can do!" I then asked permission to show it other students who were working on the same skill. To me the first part didn't require permission, but the second part did.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:42
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:If they don’t allow students to use their camera phones during school hours, the same rule should be applied to teachers and other school staff.
There are plenty of rules in schools that apply only to students, and equally many that apply only to teachers or staff. The idea that adults and children should be treated exactly the same is absurd.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:42
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:If they don’t allow students to use their camera phones during school hours, the same rule should be applied to teachers and other school staff.
DP there are different rules for different people. Do you really think your child is on the same level as teachers and administrators? There are plenty of other examples of how we treat different members of society. Kids can't drink alcohol, vote or drive a car as an 8 year old. Now if the teacher was abusing the phone and not teaching that is a different story but, I can't believe you would tell teachers they can't use their phones!
My DH teaches and there are a few kids who just make life more unpleasant for the rest of the classes and really impede learning for those who want to learn! They spend more time outside the classroom than inside it! ( This is a catholic school) How can teachers get the kids and parents to change their kids' behavior?
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:41
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
OP, your question lacks great detail and causes us to speculate. What behavior is being documented? Child crying? Child hitting? Child being sexual in class? Spitting?
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:36
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:My GE child witnessed when a teacher physically mistreated a Special Ed. student. I think this is why they don’t allow kids to carry their camera phones during school hours. Many teachers would be given a kick out of the school system.
Yes, it makes much more sense that teachers are worried they will be filmed assaulting a child in front of 30 other children than that teachers don’t want students distracted by their phones. I bet that movie theaters don’t want patrons bringing in video cameras so there isn’t photographic evidence of how stale the popcorn is.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:25
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher did this when my son started exhibiting bizarre behaviors in K and she wanted us to see him in action. He was not doing the behavior at home so video was helpful. I also take video of some of his behaviors to show to his specialists. Video clarifies in a way words can’t. Unless the video was being used to shame the kid, I’m not bothered by this at all. Not sure why everyone assumed the ops teacher was doing this in a nefarious way instead of a supporting way.
OP said the parents did not give permission. Huge difference
Huge difference. I wouldn't do it without permission. Will add that, if a teacher thought it necessary, perhaps parents have been in denial and doubting what's been shared verbally and in writing---happens often.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:19
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
My GE child witnessed when a teacher physically mistreated a Special Ed. student. I think this is why they don’t allow kids to carry their camera phones during school hours. Many teachers would be given a kick out of the school system.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:14
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think that permission has to be given to photograph children and the photos have to be shared with the parents who have to approve distribution.
(We got into this when a program sent out a photo of my DD in a bathing suit as part of a fundraising mailing to a large organization without our permission).
A photo provided to parents, school administrators, and specialists is not distribution.
And a photo of a child having a behavior episode is not the same as a photo of a child in a bathing suit.
It is distribution.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:12
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
If they don’t allow students to use their camera phones during school hours, the same rule should be applied to teachers and other school staff.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:09
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
I could also see a teacher photographing to document that she is not touching the child if the student has falsely claimed being manhandled in the past. Some children injure themselves, then blame other students or adults. They might do so out of fear, retaliation, or problems dealing with reality.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:07
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Get an attorney OP.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 11:02
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Unacceptable.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 10:53
Subject: Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
If the teacher has shared the behavior issues with you and you refuse to accept it could be happening, then yes, I think this is allowed as long it is not being posted online. If the teacher had never even told you about the behavior problems then is is inappropriate.
You haven't shared much info? Had you been notified about behavior issues? Were you denying it was possible? Are you threatening to sue? Schools have a right to collect evidence to defend themselves.
You'd be surprised how many parents think other people don't matter. Too bad if their kid harms other children or teachers, it's the school's problem. Their special snowflake can do just about anything and mumsy and dadsy will defend said snowflake and make life miserable for everyone snowflake encounters.
You haven't shared much info? Had you been notified about behavior issues? Were you denying it was possible? Are you threatening to sue? Schools have a right to collect evidence to defend themselves.
You'd be surprised how many parents think other people don't matter. Too bad if their kid harms other children or teachers, it's the school's problem. Their special snowflake can do just about anything and mumsy and dadsy will defend said snowflake and make life miserable for everyone snowflake encounters.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 10:32
Subject: Re:Teacher taking pictures of student to document behavior
Anonymous wrote:I think that permission has to be given to photograph children and the photos have to be shared with the parents who have to approve distribution.
(We got into this when a program sent out a photo of my DD in a bathing suit as part of a fundraising mailing to a large organization without our permission).
A photo provided to parents, school administrators, and specialists is not distribution.
And a photo of a child having a behavior episode is not the same as a photo of a child in a bathing suit.