Anonymous
06/08/2018 13:24
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
When you apply for DACA you are told the rules. One of the rules are you can not be convicted of a crime or you will not be accepted. Knowing this, he committed a crime, got caught, and was convicted. It is really tough to feel sorry for him.
The point of DACA is to say, the rules were broken to get you here, but we can forgive that, just do not break more rules. He ignored that. He was given a 2nd chance and ruined it.
That's your decision.
Do you have teenagers? Do you know any teenagers?
You do realize that lots of MS-13 members are also teenagers?
This kid was killed by a gang in Mexico. He wasn't involved in it, not a criminal. (He had some misdemeanors here in the US.).
Read the article. In Mexico, deported Dreamers are targeted by gangs for ransom and are murdered. We sent him back to northern Mexico, the most dangerous, lawless part of it.
I feel sorry for him. And I'm sorry that you don't.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 13:18
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
When you apply for DACA you are told the rules. One of the rules are you can not be convicted of a crime or you will not be accepted. Knowing this, he committed a crime, got caught, and was convicted. It is really tough to feel sorry for him.
The point of DACA is to say, the rules were broken to get you here, but we can forgive that, just do not break more rules. He ignored that. He was given a 2nd chance and ruined it.
That's your decision.
Do you have teenagers? Do you know any teenagers?
You do realize that lots of MS-13 members are also teenagers?
Anonymous
06/08/2018 13:06
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
When you apply for DACA you are told the rules. One of the rules are you can not be convicted of a crime or you will not be accepted. Knowing this, he committed a crime, got caught, and was convicted. It is really tough to feel sorry for him.
The point of DACA is to say, the rules were broken to get you here, but we can forgive that, just do not break more rules. He ignored that. He was given a 2nd chance and ruined it.
That's your decision.
Do you have teenagers? Do you know any teenagers?
Anonymous
06/08/2018 13:05
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
What does this have to do with anything? DACA rules say you cannot be convicted of a crime. Severity of the crime is irrelevant.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 12:51
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
When you apply for DACA you are told the rules. One of the rules are you can not be convicted of a crime or you will not be accepted. Knowing this, he committed a crime, got caught, and was convicted. It is really tough to feel sorry for him.
The point of DACA is to say, the rules were broken to get you here, but we can forgive that, just do not break more rules. He ignored that. He was given a 2nd chance and ruined it.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 09:39
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
You both forgot to note (it's in the Post article) that he left voluntarily because voluntary departure means the person can possibly re-enter the US later; deportees cannot do that. He was trying to preserve his ability to try to return to the US--the only country he knew as home and the only country in which he had any support system, contacts, and a place in a training program to better himself (he had been accepted, with a scholarship, for a car mechanic training program). Yeah, he was busted on very minor charges, charges that I'd bet plenty of DCUM posters' teen kids have on their records.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 09:32
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
Yes, voluntary departure is what you're supposed to do when you lose status. It's not like he got tired of living here. He got booted.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 09:21
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
On April 10, 2018, Cano-Pacheco requested and was granted voluntary departure, “under safeguards,” by a federal immigration judge. He returned to Mexico at the border in Laredo, Texas under ICE escort April 24.
You forgot to post the part in the article where he requested to leave.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 09:12
Subject: DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Explain to me what these kids can do to become citizens of the only country they have even known. There has to be a path that doesn’t involve deporting them to a land they don’t know.
Sure. I right to vote EVER and no chain migration.
No right to vote. Ugh.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 09:11
Subject: DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Explain to me what these kids can do to become citizens of the only country they have even known. There has to be a path that doesn’t involve deporting them to a land they don’t know.
Sure. I right to vote EVER and no chain migration.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 08:41
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:This is sad, but there was a reason he was deported.
https://www.rapsheets.org/iowa/desmoines-jail/CANO-PACHECO_MANUEL/94494
He wasn't deported, he made a voluntary departure.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 08:37
Subject: DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to our dystopian nightmare: Trump’s Murika.
Pena Nieto's Mexico where the kid was murdered. Now you are probably going to yammer about Mexican on Mexican crime.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 08:35
Subject: DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Explain to me what these kids can do to become citizens of the only country they have even known. There has to be a path that doesn’t involve deporting them to a land they don’t know.
There is not a path to citizenship for these people. Which betrays that none of the politicians really care, they're just using them as a political football. The "plan" is that they're permanently in limbo.
Which is why I argue that DACA is cruel, because it gives the impression of a solution when it's really not. Yes, children who are brought here illegally are in a terrible position. But children suffer from their parents horrible decisions all the time, and this is just one more case of that. We either need to provide a real path to citizenship/greencard, or deport immediately.
Anonymous
06/08/2018 08:02
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is sad, but there was a reason he was deported.
https://www.rapsheets.org/iowa/desmoines-jail/CANO-PACHECO_MANUEL/94494
Possession of paraphernalia and driving on a suspended license. My brother has both of those. He didn't get a death sentence for those crimes. Unlike this poor kid.
Is your brother here illegally?
No. And he's alive. This kid is dead in Mexico.
NP. DACA kids are here on thin ice. They need to toe the line and follow our laws precisely or risk being deported.
How dare www expect people to actually obey all those laws our lawmakers busily churn out!
Anonymous
06/08/2018 07:44
Subject: Re:DACA recipient who lost that status was returned to Mexico where he was murdered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is sad, but there was a reason he was deported.
https://www.rapsheets.org/iowa/desmoines-jail/CANO-PACHECO_MANUEL/94494
Possession of paraphernalia and driving on a suspended license. My brother has both of those. He didn't get a death sentence for those crimes. Unlike this poor kid.
Is your brother here illegally?
No. And he's alive. This kid is dead in Mexico.
NP. DACA kids are here on thin ice. They need to toe the line and follow our laws precisely or risk being deported.
8th Amendment. It applies here.
8th Amendment, written well before liberals came up with Sanctuary Cities, was designed to protect AMERICANS from excessive punishment, which included taking away one's U.S. citizenship.
People in this country illegally can be deported at any time for violating our laws. I don't have drug paraphernalia or drive on an expired license because I obey laws. DACA adults, who are technically illegal immigrants, need to do the same. And deportation is not excessive punishment when one is already here illegally and still can't be bothered to follow the laws.
NP. And the 1st was written before the internet and the 2nd was written before high powered weapons.