Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
I disagree, as a person who has read the entire set of FOIA documents as well as the FOIA request itself (as as someone who by must accounts is a Justin Wilson supporter actually!).
If any members of the council/mayor/vice mayor advocated for pushing back on WMATA's NDA, it would have been responsive to this request - and it's not in here.
Now I do think Wilson gets a bad rap because he puts more in writing than the other council members. I have every reason to believe the mayor knew everything the vice mayor did - she just doesn't respond to emails, so she was unlikely to write it. But I fully believe either could have pushed back on this and that neither did.
Now did that happen because they were too trusting of city staff and abdicated their oversight responsibility here, or because they thought life would be easier without public knowledge of this change...? That I can't say.
See I don't get the motive for the latter. I mean it was coming to come out sooner or later, obviously. Only case I have seen is that there was an upzoning that might not have gone through if this were known. But its an upzoning on one parcel, and given that there IS likely to be a short path to the north entrance, and eventually a south Mezzanine I think the upzoning might have gone through anyway. I just don't see that as motivation for some nefarious plot to hide things from the public.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
I keep seeing this justification for everyone's actions. Meanwhile, the City has stated that there is no written documentation of the direction they got from WMATA that this was confidential, as the guidance was supposedly given in meetings, over the phone, and face to face.
To that I ask: why was there not a thousand pages of emails from the city hammering back at WMATA saying "justify to us why we need to lie and deceive our constituents?" If WMATA didn't provide that guidance in writing, there should at minimum have been an abundance of evidence of one of these blowhard council members, Vice Mayor, Mayor, or city manager screaming back into the void saying "this is completely screwed up and you can't tell us not to let our constituents know!!" Where was the advocacy on their part to demand that the city residents be given the information they deserve? Oh wait, it isn't there. Because they didn't.
So they are either a) lying about WMATA telling them it's confidential b) completely incompetent or b) entirely uncaring about their constituents. So which is it?
1 They trusted their City Staff and staff lawyers.
2. They did not want to delay the procurement further
3. They had a lot of other things to do - among which, deal with school funding, CSO's, affordable housing, etc (also they have full time day jobs). I mean I know that to you the question of the southern entrance to the metro station is huge, but I think a thousand pages of emails is asking a lot.
Also of course the VM and the City Manager are not known to be blowhards.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
I disagree, as a person who has read the entire set of FOIA documents as well as the FOIA request itself (as as someone who by must accounts is a Justin Wilson supporter actually!).
If any members of the council/mayor/vice mayor advocated for pushing back on WMATA's NDA, it would have been responsive to this request - and it's not in here.
Now I do think Wilson gets a bad rap because he puts more in writing than the other council members. I have every reason to believe the mayor knew everything the vice mayor did - she just doesn't respond to emails, so she was unlikely to write it. But I fully believe either could have pushed back on this and that neither did.
Now did that happen because they were too trusting of city staff and abdicated their oversight responsibility here, or because they thought life would be easier without public knowledge of this change...? That I can't say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
DP and these are public servants we're talking about. THEY need to prove to US that they are acting in our best interests. They don't just get to have the benefit of the doubt when something of this magnitude gets royally hosed up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
I keep seeing this justification for everyone's actions. Meanwhile, the City has stated that there is no written documentation of the direction they got from WMATA that this was confidential, as the guidance was supposedly given in meetings, over the phone, and face to face.
To that I ask: why was there not a thousand pages of emails from the city hammering back at WMATA saying "justify to us why we need to lie and deceive our constituents?" If WMATA didn't provide that guidance in writing, there should at minimum have been an abundance of evidence of one of these blowhard council members, Vice Mayor, Mayor, or city manager screaming back into the void saying "this is completely screwed up and you can't tell us not to let our constituents know!!" Where was the advocacy on their part to demand that the city residents be given the information they deserve? Oh wait, it isn't there. Because they didn't.
So they are either a) lying about WMATA telling them it's confidential b) completely incompetent or b) entirely uncaring about their constituents. So which is it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
I keep seeing this justification for everyone's actions. Meanwhile, the City has stated that there is no written documentation of the direction they got from WMATA that this was confidential, as the guidance was supposedly given in meetings, over the phone, and face to face.
To that I ask: why was there not a thousand pages of emails from the city hammering back at WMATA saying "justify to us why we need to lie and deceive our constituents?" If WMATA didn't provide that guidance in writing, there should at minimum have been an abundance of evidence of one of these blowhard council members, Vice Mayor, Mayor, or city manager screaming back into the void saying "this is completely screwed up and you can't tell us not to let our constituents know!!" Where was the advocacy on their part to demand that the city residents be given the information they deserve? Oh wait, it isn't there. Because they didn't.
So they are either a) lying about WMATA telling them it's confidential b) completely incompetent or [[c]]b) entirely uncaring about their constituents. So which is it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
DP and these are public servants we're talking about. THEY need to prove to US that they are acting in our best interests. They don't just get to have the benefit of the doubt when something of this magnitude gets royally hosed up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
That is the only document that mentions Wilson. I think you are giving it an uncharitable reading.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
What Wilson is advocating to share in that FOIA email is this useless memo about the timeline slipping (which was eventually posted).
https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/Potomac%20Yard%20Metrorail%20Project%20Update%20(002).pdf
He (nor any other council member nor the mayor) ever advocated for actual transparency to the public about this dramatic change. Or if they did, it's not in this FOIA request (which is missing well over half of the responsive documents due to the city continuing to suppress them)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
Against Smedberg?
Why against Wilson? It appears he wanted to share the information. But believed (presumably on advice of City staff) that the NDA did apply. And where was Silberberg? Just out of the loop, because well, she is?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.
From who(m) to who(m)? At least as far as mayoral candidates, they both knew and they both did nothing.
I'm definitely much more anti-incumbent knowing it though. Every member of the council knew in 2017.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That image is blurry but there's more here if you are interested. https://pycr.blog/
Basically residents of Potomac Yard did a FOIA around the metro mezzanine deletion and found evidence of the city council knowing about the deletion in 2017 (not "just a few weeks ago" as several are stating).
More importantly, the documents show that when WMATA posted an image of the one mezzanine design in early April, city staff worked hard to get it taken down - even as WMATA expressed that it was not confidential under their rules (recall that the city is saying the WMATA NDA is why they couldn't tell the public).
Holy crap... thank you for posting that. If their interpretation of the information holds up, my vote has been changed.