Anonymous
06/04/2018 14:14
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
^There have been numerous studies that have shown that teachers are less likely to "see" giftedness in black or Hispanic children than they are for similar white and Asian children.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 14:10
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, can't believe the disconnect between some of the WISC scores and the GBRS scores. Crazy.
That's the problem with using a subjective measure.
True and also I think while there are some instances of disconnect whether due to bias or what have you, I am sure in some instances legitimately a teacher is not seeing those things in the classroom. It’s not all one nor is it all the other.
I think it's more likely that the teacher doesn't really understand giftedness and doesn't understand how to rate children showing some of the less desirable characteristics associated with gifted children. My bright, motivated, non-gifted child who is at best one year above grade level was given a very high GBRS, whereas my highly gifted child who is also multiple years above grade level in each subject was given a fairly lukewarm GBRS. I doubt that my gifted child wasn't "showing" giftedness in the classroom, considering that last year's teacher, the math teacher, and the reading specialist have been clear that they think very highly of this child. GBRS is a very biased, broken system.
I think it is also on the rarer side, and the few instances of it existing are all going to be clustered in the appeals.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 14:08
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, can't believe the disconnect between some of the WISC scores and the GBRS scores. Crazy.
That's the problem with using a subjective measure.
True and also I think while there are some instances of disconnect whether due to bias or what have you, I am sure in some instances legitimately a teacher is not seeing those things in the classroom. It’s not all one nor is it all the other.
I think it's more likely that the teacher doesn't really understand giftedness and doesn't understand how to rate children showing some of the less desirable characteristics associated with gifted children. My bright, motivated, non-gifted child who is at best one year above grade level was given a very high GBRS, whereas my highly gifted child who is also multiple years above grade level in each subject was given a fairly lukewarm GBRS. I doubt that my gifted child wasn't "showing" giftedness in the classroom, considering that last year's teacher, the math teacher, and the reading specialist have been clear that they think very highly of this child. GBRS is a very biased, broken system.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:59
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, can't believe the disconnect between some of the WISC scores and the GBRS scores. Crazy.
That's the problem with using a subjective measure.
True and also I think while there are some instances of disconnect whether due to bias or what have you, I am sure in some instances legitimately a teacher is not seeing those things in the classroom. It’s not all one nor is it all the other.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:54
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Wow, can't believe the disconnect between some of the WISC scores and the GBRS scores. Crazy.
That's the problem with using a subjective measure.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:47
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Wow, can't believe the disconnect between some of the WISC scores and the GBRS scores. Crazy.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:38
Subject: Re:AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Here is mine:
CoGAT (Composite score): 124
NNAT: 139
GBRS: 5
WISC: 142 (submitted on appeal)
In or Out: In
Note: I am so thankful for that thread warning black parents to get a hold of the packet to see the GBRS. My DD's teacher was extremely unhelpful, had awful work samples, and the AART actually spent ten minutes explaining that "not all kids NEED level IV services and about how DD never showed gifted behavior in her presence).
I have no idea why her GBRS was so low (I have theories), but I am thankful that the WISC and appeal was successful.
Congrats! Happy for your kiddo!
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:38
Subject: Re:AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is mine:
CoGAT (Composite score): 124
NNAT: 139
GBRS: 5
WISC: 142 (submitted on appeal)
In or Out: In
Note: I am so thankful for that thread warning black parents to get a hold of the packet to see the GBRS. My DD's teacher was extremely unhelpful, had awful work samples, and the AART actually spent ten minutes explaining that "not all kids NEED level IV services and about how DD never showed gifted behavior in her presence).
I have no idea why her GBRS was so low (I have theories), but I am thankful that the WISC and appeal was successful.
Congrats. Glad the appeals process worked the way it's supposed to.
DP +1
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:34
Subject: Re:AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Here is mine:
CoGAT (Composite score): 124
NNAT: 139
GBRS: 5
WISC: 142 (submitted on appeal)
In or Out: In
Note: I am so thankful for that thread warning black parents to get a hold of the packet to see the GBRS. My DD's teacher was extremely unhelpful, had awful work samples, and the AART actually spent ten minutes explaining that "not all kids NEED level IV services and about how DD never showed gifted behavior in her presence).
I have no idea why her GBRS was so low (I have theories), but I am thankful that the WISC and appeal was successful.
Congrats. Glad the appeals process worked the way it's supposed to.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:31
Subject: Re:AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Here is mine:
CoGAT (Composite score): 124
NNAT: 139
GBRS: 5
WISC: 142 (submitted on appeal)
In or Out: In
Note: I am so thankful for that thread warning black parents to get a hold of the packet to see the GBRS. My DD's teacher was extremely unhelpful, had awful work samples, and the AART actually spent ten minutes explaining that "not all kids NEED level IV services and about how DD never showed gifted behavior in her presence).
I have no idea why her GBRS was so low (I have theories), but I am thankful that the WISC and appeal was successful.
CoGAT (Composite score): 124
NNAT: 139
GBRS: 5
WISC: 142 (submitted on appeal)
In or Out: In
Note: I am so thankful for that thread warning black parents to get a hold of the packet to see the GBRS. My DD's teacher was extremely unhelpful, had awful work samples, and the AART actually spent ten minutes explaining that "not all kids NEED level IV services and about how DD never showed gifted behavior in her presence).
I have no idea why her GBRS was so low (I have theories), but I am thankful that the WISC and appeal was successful.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:19
Subject: Re:AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Got a call from the gifted coordinator today that we got in
GBRS 16
WISC 140
Cogat 124
NNAT 111
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:18
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:CoGAT (Composite score): 125
NNAT: 119
GBRS: 13
Appealed with samples, letters and
WISC: 134 (99%: VCI 99%, VSI 97%, FRI 98%)
IN
Good luck to everyone still waiting; I am so glad it is settled.
Start a new thread then.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:17
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like the appeals are becoming tough based on the 12:10 poster. We are waiting to hear ours. My kid had the following scores.
NNAT/145
COGAT/126
GBRS/9
WISC/132 = We appealed with WISC.
No really. 12:10 has good NNAT and CogAt.
Thw Wisc is too low for aap.
Would not have appealed with those.
Clueless.
But PP should have waited, so that she could post In or Not in, instead of just cluttering up this thread with more gibberish. Too impatient.
You are Clueless if you think 121 Wisc is appeal-worthy.
And you are cluttering up the thread with gibberish. Hypocrite.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:09
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
CoGAT (Composite score): 125
NNAT: 119
GBRS: 13
Appealed with samples, letters and
WISC: 134 (99%: VCI 99%, VSI 97%, FRI 98%)
IN
Good luck to everyone still waiting; I am so glad it is settled.
NNAT: 119
GBRS: 13
Appealed with samples, letters and
WISC: 134 (99%: VCI 99%, VSI 97%, FRI 98%)
IN
Good luck to everyone still waiting; I am so glad it is settled.
Anonymous
06/04/2018 13:06
Subject: AAP Appeal Results Thread (now that decisions are out)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like the appeals are becoming tough based on the 12:10 poster. We are waiting to hear ours. My kid had the following scores.
NNAT/145
COGAT/126
GBRS/9
WISC/132 = We appealed with WISC.
No really. 12:10 has good NNAT and CogAt.
Thw Wisc is too low for aap.
Would not have appealed with those.
Clueless.
But PP should have waited, so that she could post In or Not in, instead of just cluttering up this thread with more gibberish. Too impatient.