Anonymous wrote:You are making an argument based on a non-existent Jewish prayer?

Yes, because there is no prayer in Judaism that violates Christian beliefs, but there ARE prayers - everyone with Jesus in them - that are in direct violation to Jewish beliefs.

Christians need to understand that not everyone believes in Jesus, and that leading a prayer at a work function asking all people to pray to him is insensitive at best, and arrogant and sanctimonious at worse.

You are making an argument based on a non-existent Jewish prayer?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.

No more unprofessional than someone shoving religion down your throat AT WORK.

Seriously. Would you believe I have to follow all sorts of rules about the kosher kitchen at work?

Oh, wait. That's right. It's not a big deal and I'm fine following the rules to keep the kitchen and its contents kosher, even if I don't share any of the beliefs.

I also don't freak out when there are invited (male) speakers who will shake the hands of men but not women. It's their religion, no skin off my nose.

You are CLUELESS. Being asked to follow the rules of a kosher kitchen does not violate your religious beliefs. A Jew being asked to pray in the name of "our Savior Jesus Chrisf" is being asked to violate his religious beliefs. Not the same thing at all.

A better analogy would be if a Jew got up to give the benediction at a work function, asked all in attendance to bow their heads, and then lead a prayer affirming that Jesus was a mortal man and NOT the son of God. (Not that Jews have that kind of prayer. They make no reference to. Jesus at all.)

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.

No more unprofessional than someone shoving religion down your throat AT WORK.

Yes. I wonder if these posters who are saying that Jews and Muslims should be just fine being asked to bow their heads in prayer, only to learn that they have been asked to thank Jesus - at a WORK function - are Christian.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.

No more unprofessional than someone shoving religion down your throat AT WORK.

Seriously. Would you believe I have to follow all sorts of rules about the kosher kitchen at work?

Oh, wait. That's right. It's not a big deal and I'm fine following the rules to keep the kitchen and its contents kosher, even if I don't share any of the beliefs.

I also don't freak out when there are invited (male) speakers who will shake the hands of men but not women. It's their religion, no skin off my nose.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.

No more unprofessional than someone shoving religion down your throat AT WORK.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Your situation is different than hers. Read before making a comment.

Are you a Christian?

You are an adult.

You did not have to bow your head. You could have sat quietly and daydreamed about remodeling your bathroom.

The point is that I did not imagine that in a non-sectarian workplace lunch, with all different religions represented, that I was bowing my head to Jesus IN ADVANCE. I thought it was going to be a very generic, inclusive "prayer" - not one for Christians only.

It is WRONG to sanction one religion over another in a workplace setting.

No, it is not wrong.

A workplace is not the government.

What is wrong is those who expect all of society to be sterilized of all inklings of religion, religious thoughts and religious words.

Freedom of religion is one of our most important freedoms, along with freedom of speech.

The right not to be offended or made uncomfortable is not a constitutionally protected freedom.

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Preach it!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

Wow you are so kool. And klassy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.

Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Your situation is different than hers. Read before making a comment.

Are you a Christian?

You are an adult.

You did not have to bow your head. You could have sat quietly and daydreamed about remodeling your bathroom.

The point is that I did not imagine that in a non-sectarian workplace lunch, with all different religions represented, that I was bowing my head to Jesus IN ADVANCE. I thought it was going to be a very generic, inclusive "prayer" - not one for Christians only.

It is WRONG to sanction one religion over another in a workplace setting.

No, it is not wrong.

A workplace is not the government.

What is wrong is those who expect all of society to be sterilized of all inklings of religion, religious thoughts and religious words.

Freedom of religion is one of our most important freedoms, along with freedom of speech.

The right not to be offended or made uncomfortable is not a constitutionally protected freedom.

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Preach it!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Your situation is different than hers. Read before making a comment.

Are you a Christian?

You are an adult.

You did not have to bow your head. You could have sat quietly and daydreamed about remodeling your bathroom.

The point is that I did not imagine that in a non-sectarian workplace lunch, with all different religions represented, that I was bowing my head to Jesus IN ADVANCE. I thought it was going to be a very generic, inclusive "prayer" - not one for Christians only.

It is WRONG to sanction one religion over another in a workplace setting.

No, it is not wrong.

A workplace is not the government.

What is wrong is those who expect all of society to be sterilized of all inklings of religion, religious thoughts and religious words.

Freedom of religion is one of our most important freedoms, along with freedom of speech.

The right not to be offended or made uncomfortable is not a constitutionally protected freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Show me on this doll where the prayer hurt you.

Nice way to show complete disdain for someone's religious beliefs that say one does not pray to anyone but G-d. Sorry, but Christians don't get to ignore the fact that there are other people in the room who don't share their views. It's disrespectful, to say the least.

The people in the room were not stopped or forbidden from praying in any other way.

Dimes to doughnuts the person complaining didn’t even think about my type of prayer to any deity- then, a Christian prayed, and anger ensued.

Suddenly: sanctioned prayer!!!’ Denial of rights!!! Outrage!

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this new OP that constantly copies and pastes news stories all day every day?

+1. there's no question

+2. Pitchfork up. We don’t need no discussin’ Of news and current events in religion ‘round these here parts.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs.

Your situation is different than hers. Read before making a comment.

Are you a Christian?

You are an adult.

You did not have to bow your head. You could have sat quietly and daydreamed about remodeling your bathroom.

The point is that I did not imagine that in a non-sectarian workplace lunch, with all different religions represented, that I was bowing my head to Jesus IN ADVANCE. I thought it was going to be a very generic, inclusive "prayer" - not one for Christians only.

It is WRONG to sanction one religion over another in a workplace setting.

You assume someone was denied a chance to pray or worship in their chosen way. If nobody asked, no one was denied and nothing was sanctioned.