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Anonymous wrote:^^ because of what has happened to the sport I loved. The travel has gotten out of control. It’s more exclusionary than ever. I get tired of hearing parents never play the sport act like driving to “Beach” will make their kid a National team player.

The time wasted on the Interstate as big as the DMV given the amount of talent in a 44 minute radius (1 hour tops) radius is just insane. It’s killing the sport for young kids.

But parents will sign up and pay big bucks for the abuse and highway to nowhere.

I’m angry because all of the local/closest choice Clubs for us are some of the biggest travelers. The sport got away from being about the kids to making it a lucrative business for adults selling snake oil.

I’m waiting for the pendulum to swing. Sigh. So this is where I vent.

+1. well said. you are not alone. i could have written your post. that other poster who started the name calling is one of the dumb parents who buy in. CCL next year is a watered down 3rd tier league. drink the Kool-Aid CCL fans on your drives to Williamsburg to play the shitty Legacy.

NCSL is a reasonable balance for those who want travel soccer outside DA or ECNL. ccl fans should just stop pretending that playing in that league with its driving is worth anything.

I'm another who is with you. I think there are a bunch of us on DCUM who see the harm CCL and the proliferation of leagues has caused. I've wondered if there is anything to be done. Maybe we need to organize into some kind of soccer parent union to have negotiating power.

Anonymous wrote:CCL for Northern VA good clubs is a lot of road time to the south to play some bad soccer ..... also bad teams locally.

Not enough of the good md teams are in it, and Stoddert has just gone real downhill

Anonymous wrote:NCSL has less travel distance than CCL. If your concern is travel then join a team that plays in NCSL. No parent union needed, just enough parents who are truly concerned about the travel distance that they are willing to forgo the glory and glamour of their kid being on the A team and choose instead the B or C team. If enough parents do this then you will prove your point and get what you need.

But as long as ALL of concern yourself primarily with the Color associated with your team it is what it is.

Anonymous wrote:NCSL has less travel distance than CCL. If your concern is travel then join a team that plays in NCSL. No parent union needed, just enough parents who are truly concerned about the travel distance that they are willing to forgo the glory and glamour of their kid being on the A team and choose instead the B or C team. If enough parents do this then you will prove your point and get what you need.

But as long as ALL of concern yourself primarily with the Color associated with your team it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ because of what has happened to the sport I loved. The travel has gotten out of control. It’s more exclusionary than ever. I get tired of hearing parents never play the sport act like driving to “Beach” will make their kid a National team player.

The time wasted on the Interstate as big as the DMV given the amount of talent in a 44 minute radius (1 hour tops) radius is just insane. It’s killing the sport for young kids.

But parents will sign up and pay big bucks for the abuse and highway to nowhere.

I’m angry because all of the local/closest choice Clubs for us are some of the biggest travelers. The sport got away from being about the kids to making it a lucrative business for adults selling snake oil.

I’m waiting for the pendulum to swing. Sigh. So this is where I vent.

+1. well said. you are not alone. i could have written your post. that other poster who started the name calling is one of the dumb parents who buy in. CCL next year is a watered down 3rd tier league. drink the Kool-Aid CCL fans on your drives to Williamsburg to play the shitty Legacy.

NCSL is a reasonable balance for those who want travel soccer outside DA or ECNL. ccl fans should just stop pretending that playing in that league with its driving is worth anything.

Anonymous wrote:^^ because of what has happened to the sport I loved. The travel has gotten out of control. It’s more exclusionary than ever. I get tired of hearing parents never play the sport act like driving to “Beach” will make their kid a National team player.

The time wasted on the Interstate as big as the DMV given the amount of talent in a 44 minute radius (1 hour tops) radius is just insane. It’s killing the sport for young kids.

But parents will sign up and pay big bucks for the abuse and highway to nowhere.

I’m angry because all of the local/closest choice Clubs for us are some of the biggest travelers. The sport got away from being about the kids to making it a lucrative business for adults selling snake oil.

I’m waiting for the pendulum to swing. Sigh. So this is where I vent.

Anonymous wrote:^^ because of what has happened to the sport I loved. The travel has gotten out of control. It’s more exclusionary than ever. I get tired of hearing parents never play the sport act like driving to “Beach” will make their kid a National team player.

The time wasted on the Interstate as big as the DMV given the amount of talent in a 44 minute radius (1 hour tops) radius is just insane. It’s killing the sport for young kids.

But parents will sign up and pay big bucks for the abuse and highway to nowhere.

I’m angry because all of the local/closest choice Clubs for us are some of the biggest travelers. The sport got away from being about the kids to making it a lucrative business for adults selling snake oil.

I’m waiting for the pendulum to swing. Sigh. So this is where I vent.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever you are, jerk, you are wrong and misleading OP. We have been in CCL with multiple kids, and often you end up with long drives down the 95 3+ times in the Fall alone. Travel soccer is a year commitment and you play all of the CCL clubs once across the entire year. They just added a second Virginia Beach club, so it looks like you are guaranteed a "nice" drive to Virginia Beach every single year now to play 1 of those 2 teams. Add up the total hours and miles that your DC will be in a car to places like Roanoke, and it is a major commitment. This poster is trying to mislead with the "only 1-2 a season" not being a big deal. We have played NCSL too, and the travel times are far less over the course of a year, as other posters indicate. FWIW: CCL2 is a dead league with scheduling problems.

OP: please ignore the CCL jerk, and if a choice of leagues really matters to you, then go into it with your eyes open and keep researching. Compare a club's CCL team travel requirements to that same club and age group's NCSL team's travel, and the proof is there. It is all online. You don't need people's opinions on which has more travel. It is not debatable.

+1

That is why we left a CCL club. I will never drive 1.5+ one way to a regular season game. Kids play equal time on our team so a 3 hour + drive (sometimes 6 hours) for 30 minutes of play is g-damn ridiculous. They are better off playing pick up all afternoon.

I’ll drive for a tournament, but regular season game? No f@cking way.

It hasn’t hurt my kids’ development at all bucking this trend.

Anonymous wrote:Whoever you are, jerk, you are wrong and misleading OP. We have been in CCL with multiple kids, and often you end up with long drives down the 95 3+ times in the Fall alone. Travel soccer is a year commitment and you play all of the CCL clubs once across the entire year. They just added a second Virginia Beach club, so it looks like you are guaranteed a "nice" drive to Virginia Beach every single year now to play 1 of those 2 teams. Add up the total hours and miles that your DC will be in a car to places like Roanoke, and it is a major commitment. This poster is trying to mislead with the "only 1-2 a season" not being a big deal. We have played NCSL too, and the travel times are far less over the course of a year, as other posters indicate. FWIW: CCL2 is a dead league with scheduling problems.

OP: please ignore the CCL jerk, and if a choice of leagues really matters to you, then go into it with your eyes open and keep researching. Compare a club's CCL team travel requirements to that same club and age group's NCSL team's travel, and the proof is there. It is all online. You don't need people's opinions on which has more travel. It is not debatable.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL at U11 has games in Roanoke, Williamsburg, Charlottesville, VA beach, Richmond, etc.

But you don't play each of these teams each season and half the time they come to you.
It think it ends up being 2 far-away games a season, max.

This starts at U11 and is only for the A teams in CCL.
B teams move to CCL2 at U11 and only "travel" in the DMV--max drive about 1hr.

You play each of these teams EVERY season. It alternates between home and away every other year, but you do end up with significant driving every year. OP was asking about CCL, not CCL2 which barely qualifies as a league.

no,--you're wrong. they play each once club per year (once in 2017-2018). Half are usually away. So like I said, 1 or a max of 2 long trips per season.
And why are you being a jerk about CCL2?

Season = year. Read the whole post a$$. The drives down the 95 to Fredericksburg and beyond are frequent and all who play in it know it involves lots of travel when you add up the total miles. It is not a local league, it is a regional league. Don't play CCL if you don't want to travel, stick to NCSL, OP. Ignore this a$$.