Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He could take bribes on 5th Avenue, right there on the corner, and they won't care.

I'll refer you here and tell you to politely STFU. You set up the game, now live by it.


Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

First of all, Trump ran against this and ended up doing it 100x worse. And Second, you think Obama was the first to do this?

You STFU.

Such a cop out .......

1 year of Trump Impact:

FBI: lying
CIA: lying
NSA: lying
Comey: lying
McCabe: lying
Rosenstein: lying
Mueller: lying
Clapper: lying
Hillary: lying
Obama: lying
Bush Jr: lying
Bush Sr: lying
Papadopoulos: lying
Media: lying
Democrats: lying
Corker: lying
McCain: lying
Flake: lying
Puerto Rico: lying
Gold Star widow: lying
Stormy Daniels: lying
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Vladdie Putin: Not Lying !!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He could take bribes on 5th Avenue, right there on the corner, and they won't care.

I'll refer you here and tell you to politely STFU. You set up the game, now live by it.


Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

First of all, Trump ran against this and ended up doing it 100x worse. And Second, you think Obama was the first to do this?

You STFU.

This thread and the posts are a perfect illustration of the desperation - and helplessness - of liberals.

Anonymous wrote:but but .. Hilllary ... Ukraine... Foundation.. uh..... something something.... oh.. her husband..her emails.

Oh dang, Trump had those issues, too.

Is Hillary still alive? She didn't look very good toward the end of her last failed run for the Presidency.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

Um, paying off his affair partners? Requiring one of them to get an abortion? Etc.

This is the swampiest administration ever. And utterly predictable.

They love swamp. The nastier, slimier the better.

I have a theory that the Trump supporters are all secret aliens - like V. They love reptiles.

Presumably John Kerry registered as a foreign agent before he went and talked to Iranian diplomats.

Oh wait

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

If Cohen did these things, and they were illegal he should pay the price. On the other hand, our company frequently hired lobbyists to provide a means of access to congressional representatives so we could encourage them to support legislation that benefitted our company. In many cases after these meetings and at the lobbyists suggestion we make legal campaign contributions to them. Is this pay for play too?

Presumably your company's lobbyists register as lobbyists and file the legally required disclosures reporting on their activities. Cohen did not do this, so he was not lobbying.

Anonymous wrote:He could take bribes on 5th Avenue, right there on the corner, and they won't care.

I'll refer you here and tell you to politely STFU. You set up the game, now live by it.


Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

Anonymous wrote:Accusations and innuendo aren’t facts.

How about some proof Trump was involved?

It’s hard to have an opinion on anything without clarity.

Thank you - I was just about to post this. All this outrage over pure speculation. We see this again and again on DCUM. It must be exhausting.

Accusations and innuendo aren’t facts.

How about some proof Trump was involved?

It’s hard to have an opinion on anything without clarity.

Anonymous wrote:What I'm waiting for is evidence of money flowing from Cohen to a Trump company. There is no way Cohen got to keep all that cash.

Of course Trump knew and must have a cut from the money. Can you imagine Cohen doing it in Trump’s name deceptively without his knowledge and Trump not suing Cohen for defaming him? A conman whose buisness model has been selling his name will not keep quiet if he knew nothing about Cohen’s pay-for-play scheme on his name.

What I'm waiting for is evidence of money flowing from Cohen to a Trump company. There is no way Cohen got to keep all that cash.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

If Cohen did these things, and they were illegal he should pay the price. On the other hand, our company frequently hired lobbyists to provide a means of access to congressional representatives so we could encourage them to support legislation that benefitted our company. In many cases after these meetings and at the lobbyists suggestion we make legal campaign contributions to them. Is this pay for play too?

Cohen is not a lobbyist. He was POTUS attorney. He was selling access.