Anonymous
05/08/2018 22:25
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it, but many of them do. How do you handle it? One parent called the police and reported underage drinking and the dad who was serving told the police to leave unless they had a warrant. I’m sick that parents are teaching kids to disobey the law and taking liberties with the safety of other people’s children. Do you report it? What else do you do?
I'm against underage drinking, but what would you have done in this circumstance? Let the kids get cited by the cops for underage drinking? I'd rather they not get caught.
I wouldn’t be in that situation. I teach my children that laws should obeyed and police should be respected.
And the law is that police should have a warrant.
No if the police see underage drinking or arrest kids as they leave the party, the police will go on your property and start arresting kids and the home owner.
No, once again uninformed DCUM with zero legal knowledge rears its ugly head.
You do not have to allow the police into your home. If the kids are being served alcohol in your home and are not outside of your home, there is no reason for the police to need to come in your home. The parent was completely within his rights to tell the police officer to leave and return with a warrant because he's never going to get a warrant for that.
Also, it's completely legal (at least in VA) for a parent to serve their own child alcohol in their own home. It's not legal to serve other underage minors, however. But, like this person did above, telling the officer to get a warrant and not allowing him in their home is legal as well.
That is a dangerous game to play. A smart cop who sees drunk kids leaving a house would simply arrest the parents who refused entry. It would not give them access to the house without a warrant but there would be probable cause for the arrest and it would deter future incidents.
What about the cop who watches the kids leave the party, follows them fOr few blocks and then gets them on a DUI. Do you think those aren’t going to tell where they got the alcohol?
I hope the parents taught the kids about the right to remain silent. Very important right. It's not a TV drama, no reason to talk.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 21:52
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Aside from the LEGAL aspect being discussed here, let's talk about simply what's good judgement.
To all the parents (yes, ALL, more than one parent, more than one occasion) who served alcohol to my teen and LIED TO MY FACE ABOUT IT (and to the ones who look the other way):
Did you know she has a seizure disorder and is on medication for it? Did it occur to you that some kid might be on medication and mixing it with alcohol could endanger her life? The ADULT in the home is responsible for the kids' behavior and safety. PERIOD.
Your child also knows not to mix alcohol and her medication, right?
Anonymous
05/08/2018 21:44
Subject: Re:When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Clueless PPs
IF Police knock on your door and you answer.
AND Police see (smell, hear,..). something illegal.
THEN Police do not need a warrant. Same is true if they see something through a window.
That's plain view. Might want to Google that before you play law scholar with the police.
No.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 21:42
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it, but many of them do. How do you handle it? One parent called the police and reported underage drinking and the dad who was serving told the police to leave unless they had a warrant. I’m sick that parents are teaching kids to disobey the law and taking liberties with the safety of other people’s children. Do you report it? What else do you do?
I'm against underage drinking, but what would you have done in this circumstance? Let the kids get cited by the cops for underage drinking? I'd rather they not get caught.
I wouldn’t be in that situation. I teach my children that laws should obeyed and police should be respected.
And the law is that police should have a warrant.
No if the police see underage drinking or arrest kids as they leave the party, the police will go on your property and start arresting kids and the home owner.
No, once again uninformed DCUM with zero legal knowledge rears its ugly head.
You do not have to allow the police into your home. If the kids are being served alcohol in your home and are not outside of your home, there is no reason for the police to need to come in your home. The parent was completely within his rights to tell the police officer to leave and return with a warrant because he's never going to get a warrant for that.
Also, it's completely legal (at least in VA) for a parent to serve their own child alcohol in their own home. It's not legal to serve other underage minors, however. But, like this person did above, telling the officer to get a warrant and not allowing him in their home is legal as well.
That is a dangerous game to play. A smart cop who sees drunk kids leaving a house would simply arrest the parents who refused entry. It would not give them access to the house without a warrant but there would be probable cause for the arrest and it would deter future incidents.
What about the cop who watches the kids leave the party, follows them fOr few blocks and then gets them on a DUI. Do you think those aren’t going to tell where they got the alcohol?
Anonymous
05/08/2018 21:36
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
I allow my own teen to have some alcohol, but don’t serve it to other kids. Even with my nieces and nephews, I ask my sibling first.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 19:28
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
I picked DS up from a party once where parents were either serving or turning a (very) willful blind eye, and I could smell marijuana when I walked up. I told the hosts that they probably had the 30 minutes it would take me to get home where my husband would say, “how was the party?” before the police were notified. I think that estimate turned out to be fairly accurate. The hosts themselves were so plastered, they thought it was really funny when I said it.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 14:51
Subject: Re:When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Since we're a LEO family, yes, we would report it if we knew without a doubt that it was going on. My husband is mandated to report illegal activity.
No he isn't.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 14:51
Subject: Re:When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Clueless PPs
IF Police knock on your door and you answer.
AND Police see (smell, hear,..). something illegal.
THEN Police do not need a warrant. Same is true if they see something through a window.
That's plain view. Might want to Google that before you play law scholar with the police.
IF Police knock on your door and you answer.
AND Police see (smell, hear,..). something illegal.
THEN Police do not need a warrant. Same is true if they see something through a window.
That's plain view. Might want to Google that before you play law scholar with the police.
Anonymous
05/08/2018 14:44
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Aside from the LEGAL aspect being discussed here, let's talk about simply what's good judgement.
To all the parents (yes, ALL, more than one parent, more than one occasion) who served alcohol to my teen and LIED TO MY FACE ABOUT IT (and to the ones who look the other way):
Did you know she has a seizure disorder and is on medication for it? Did it occur to you that some kid might be on medication and mixing it with alcohol could endanger her life? The ADULT in the home is responsible for the kids' behavior and safety. PERIOD.
To all the parents (yes, ALL, more than one parent, more than one occasion) who served alcohol to my teen and LIED TO MY FACE ABOUT IT (and to the ones who look the other way):
Did you know she has a seizure disorder and is on medication for it? Did it occur to you that some kid might be on medication and mixing it with alcohol could endanger her life? The ADULT in the home is responsible for the kids' behavior and safety. PERIOD.
Anonymous
05/07/2018 03:53
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it, but many of them do. How do you handle it? One parent called the police and reported underage drinking and the dad who was serving told the police to leave unless they had a warrant. I’m sick that parents are teaching kids to disobey the law and taking liberties with the safety of other people’s children. Do you report it? What else do you do?
I'm against underage drinking, but what would you have done in this circumstance? Let the kids get cited by the cops for underage drinking? I'd rather they not get caught.
I wouldn’t be in that situation. I teach my children that laws should obeyed and police should be respected.
And the law is that police should have a warrant.
No if the police see underage drinking or arrest kids as they leave the party, the police will go on your property and start arresting kids and the home owner.
No, once again uninformed DCUM with zero legal knowledge rears its ugly head.
You do not have to allow the police into your home. If the kids are being served alcohol in your home and are not outside of your home, there is no reason for the police to need to come in your home. The parent was completely within his rights to tell the police officer to leave and return with a warrant because he's never going to get a warrant for that.
Also, it's completely legal (at least in VA) for a parent to serve their own child alcohol in their own home. It's not legal to serve other underage minors, however. But, like this person did above, telling the officer to get a warrant and not allowing him in their home is legal as well.
That is a dangerous game to play. A smart cop who sees drunk kids leaving a house would simply arrest the parents who refused entry. It would not give them access to the house without a warrant but there would be probable cause for the arrest and it would deter future incidents.
Anonymous
05/07/2018 00:07
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it, but many of them do. How do you handle it? One parent called the police and reported underage drinking and the dad who was serving told the police to leave unless they had a warrant. I’m sick that parents are teaching kids to disobey the law and taking liberties with the safety of other people’s children. Do you report it? What else do you do?
I'm against underage drinking, but what would you have done in this circumstance? Let the kids get cited by the cops for underage drinking? I'd rather they not get caught.
Would you rather have someone end up dead after drinking and driving?
Anonymous
05/06/2018 17:20
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two teens and I have experienced this. There are also many many parents who “look the other way” when teens somehow get ahold of alcohol themselves and don’t supervise parties at their homes.
For the ones who actually serve it, my kids are not allowed to go. (Finding out about it ahead of time is what’s tricky.) I hope there’s a special place in hell for those parents.
For the don’t ask, don’t tell parents, there’s not much you can do other than talk to your kids about drinking and hope they are making good choices. If a particular home continues to be a problem, I don’t let them go there anymore.
+1
Plus, diplomats.
One of these down the street in fact. Mom was in there in the kitchen while kids were serving alcohol to each other. Kids spilling on to the street, in front of cars. One of our neighbors gave them a heads up that several of us had called the cops. Police came and they threw all the bottled into the neighbor's yard and mom claimed there was no alcohol. Luckily no one was hurt but we were disgusted. This was not controlled drinking.
Anonymous
05/06/2018 17:17
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it, but many of them do. How do you handle it? One parent called the police and reported underage drinking and the dad who was serving told the police to leave unless they had a warrant. I’m sick that parents are teaching kids to disobey the law and taking liberties with the safety of other people’s children. Do you report it? What else do you do?
I'm against underage drinking, but what would you have done in this circumstance? Let the kids get cited by the cops for underage drinking? I'd rather they not get caught.
I wouldn’t be in that situation. I teach my children that laws should obeyed and police should be respected.
And the law is that police should have a warrant.
In this situation? With a credible report of a crime in progress? I don’t think so.
Anonymous
05/06/2018 15:58
Subject: When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Anonymous wrote:You mean parents are serving alcohol to the kids? I have two teens and have not experienced this.
How do you know this is happening, was your child there and witnessed this?
If this was something I heard about through word of mouth I wouldn't do a thing. If it were something I knew for a fact because my child was there and told me, I'd be mad as Hell and I'd speak to the parents. Depending on how that went I may or may not call the authorities.
Sorry, but you are clueless about what is going around. My teen tells me everything and chose many time not to go to some home parties (she would attend birthday celebration, or go to the movie with the same company, but refused to go to several people's homes because of the alcohol).
Anonymous
05/05/2018 09:16
Subject: Re:When other parents serve alcohol/throw parties for kids
Since we're a LEO family, yes, we would report it if we knew without a doubt that it was going on. My husband is mandated to report illegal activity.