Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 23:05     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Per the Payscale description, the data is self-reported.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:59     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Predominant on this list are schools where grads typically go directly to grad schools. Wouldn't that affect the median salary number and thus the ranking?
Service academies are highest yet most wouldn't disagree that as a whole top earnings later experiemce a relative drop. IMO this payscale ranking isn't relevant as to how schools stack up for prep students or whether they're worth it once taking advanced education into consideration.


Not sure of the methodology. I would guess your analysis applies to similarly ranking school as well. Many of them move on to grad schools as well. e.g., Cornell, JHU. Yet, they are all ranked in the same cluster. To test your hypothesis, simply run Payscale for HYPS schools. I am guessing their salary number are significantly higher than Chicago's.


How does Payscale get their data and what quality? And how do colleges or the govt know how much each college's grads make?
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:58     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:The kids attending UChicago now are a completely different cohort from UChicago kids of 15-20 years ago. Chicago's acceptance rate this year is 7.2% behind HYPSM which range from 4.5-6.5% but harder to get into than the other Ivys and competitors like Duke.


Heard UCLA acceptance rate this year is around 5%, lower than Chicago's. Acceptance rate is not all there is. That's more of a PR function.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:56     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:Predominant on this list are schools where grads typically go directly to grad schools. Wouldn't that affect the median salary number and thus the ranking?
Service academies are highest yet most wouldn't disagree that as a whole top earnings later experiemce a relative drop. IMO this payscale ranking isn't relevant as to how schools stack up for prep students or whether they're worth it once taking advanced education into consideration.


Not sure of the methodology. I would guess your analysis applies to similarly ranking school as well. Many of them move on to grad schools as well. e.g., Cornell, JHU. Yet, they are all ranked in the same cluster. To test your hypothesis, simply run Payscale for HYPS schools. I am guessing their salary number are significantly higher than Chicago's.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:56     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

The kids attending UChicago now are a completely different cohort from UChicago kids of 15-20 years ago. Chicago's acceptance rate this year is 7.2% behind HYPSM which range from 4.5-6.5% but harder to get into than the other Ivys and competitors like Duke.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:47     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Predominant on this list are schools where grads typically go directly to grad schools. Wouldn't that affect the median salary number and thus the ranking?
Service academies are highest yet most wouldn't disagree that as a whole top earnings later experiemce a relative drop. IMO this payscale ranking isn't relevant as to how schools stack up for prep students or whether they're worth it once taking advanced education into consideration.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:26     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:Seems there was a long thread on Chicago recently. Chicago isn't worth it.


https://www.payscale.com/research/US/School=University_of_Chicago/Salary



Definitely not up there with HYPS. Not bad; but not arrived yet. By Payscale ranking, U of Chicago is in the class with following schools:

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Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 22:18     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Seems there was a long thread on Chicago recently. Chicago isn't worth it.


https://www.payscale.com/research/US/School=University_of_Chicago/Salary
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 21:20     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:STA has sent 5 plus a year to Chicago for the last few years. It’s definitely hot with those kids.


Athletes, I think.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 21:15     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

STA has sent 5 plus a year to Chicago for the last few years. It’s definitely hot with those kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 20:38     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: One of the smartest kid in my DC's class at Sidwell chose to go there and loves it. I think being around other intellectuals is fun.


Asian studies program?


I'm sure you meant that as a mean stereotype. Here's the thing. Kids who like being around interesting people doing interesting things turn into the very adults that are socially chased here in the DMV. And they come in all skin colors, shapes, personalities and likes/dislikes. By the way for the snobs, not only did Gates kid turn down Stanford for UChicago but the president of Princeton's kid is there too as well as now being the top destination school for the northeast boarding schools. And please don't worry about them, it's far from joyless. That old reputation is what needs to die.


No, actually hotshot, sfs has an excellent China studies program and sends a couple kids each year to u of Chicago for Asian studies and Chinese degrees. And if you knew anything about it, you’d know exactly what kids partake in it at sfs and that most are not Asian.


Sorry. It didn't occur to me that you meant that.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 20:12     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Id just follow that up by saying the u of Chicago student I studied abroad with in Asia back in 1999 and 2000 were a lot of fun. Not like this insecure PP harping about the school. My u of chi coworkers are a lot more condenser and subtle as well. No complexes. We all know it’s a tough school, curves down, solid academics, good career services, high grad school hit rate.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 20:09     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: One of the smartest kid in my DC's class at Sidwell chose to go there and loves it. I think being around other intellectuals is fun.


Asian studies program?


I'm sure you meant that as a mean stereotype. Here's the thing. Kids who like being around interesting people doing interesting things turn into the very adults that are socially chased here in the DMV. And they come in all skin colors, shapes, personalities and likes/dislikes. By the way for the snobs, not only did Gates kid turn down Stanford for UChicago but the president of Princeton's kid is there too as well as now being the top destination school for the northeast boarding schools. And please don't worry about them, it's far from joyless. That old reputation is what needs to die.


No, actually hotshot, sfs has an excellent China studies program and sends a couple kids each year to u of Chicago for Asian studies and Chinese degrees. And if you knew anything about it, you’d know exactly what kids partake in it at sfs and that most are not Asian.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 19:12     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, specifically with regard to targeting “normal” outgoing prep school students. Is it now a peer to HYPS to prep school families?


We are a prep school family and consider it a peer. Our high EQ kid thinks it's better but then again, who couldn't find something to love about all these schools? They are all extremely fortunate and I hope their educations mean they'll take their bounty and go on to make a difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2018 19:07     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: One of the smartest kid in my DC's class at Sidwell chose to go there and loves it. I think being around other intellectuals is fun.


Asian studies program?


I'm sure you meant that as a mean stereotype. Here's the thing. Kids who like being around interesting people doing interesting things turn into the very adults that are socially chased here in the DMV. And they come in all skin colors, shapes, personalities and likes/dislikes. By the way for the snobs, not only did Gates kid turn down Stanford for UChicago but the president of Princeton's kid is there too as well as now being the top destination school for the northeast boarding schools. And please don't worry about them, it's far from joyless. That old reputation is what needs to die.


I get that Gates's kid is a pseudo celeb -- but how in the world do you know where Princeton's president's kid is going to college?


DP, but why would it surprise you if people on DCUM know Chris Eisgruber and Lori Martin?