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Anonymous

04/25/2018 13:38 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
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Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
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Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

While slightly less relevant, JKLM still means something as they're the schools that are at 70-80% of "met expectations" on PARCC. Despite being in wealthy areas, Brent, Stoddert, Eaton, and Hearst are still at the ~60% goal of met expectations on PARCC - mostly due to lots of the kids in those areas going to private schools. That puts them more appropriately in the grouping with the second bunch, who are at the 60%ish percentage mark.

I think that second group looks more like:

Brent Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Hyde Addison Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Oyster Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Out of these group, Shepherd and Oyster Adams are of particular note for high performance as they're both majority-minority, which may be particularly appealing for some.

I'd put the third group as potential - but still a ways to go/a lot to prove/no real results yet:
Capitol Hill Montessori
Marie Reed Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School
Thomson Elementary School
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

As has been discussed in previous Ward 6 threads, you have to consider the achievement gap when discussing PARCC scores. For example, Ludlow Taylor has pretty great PARCC scores for Black/African American students compared to the rest of the city or the rest of Ward 6. Their ELA scores for AA students beat every school on your top two lists. If we are discussing PARCC scores, they don't have much to prove. They don't yet have an N greater than 25 to measure white students.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 13:36 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Class size.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 13:13 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

While slightly less relevant, JKLM still means something as they're the schools that are at 70-80% of "met expectations" on PARCC. Despite being in wealthy areas, Brent, Stoddert, Eaton, and Hearst are still at the ~60% goal of met expectations on PARCC - mostly due to lots of the kids in those areas going to private schools. That puts them more appropriately in the grouping with the second bunch, who are at the 60%ish percentage mark.

I think that second group looks more like:

Brent Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Hyde Addison Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Oyster Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Out of these group, Shepherd and Oyster Adams are of particular note for high performance as they're both majority-minority, which may be particularly appealing for some.

I'd put the third group as potential - but still a ways to go/a lot to prove/no real results yet:
Capitol Hill Montessori
Marie Reed Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School
Thomson Elementary School
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

I don't understand. Stoddert had the highest Parcc scores combined in 2017. Ela 83% and math 84%. How many years do they need to beat JKLM to get to fist group in your eyes?

Anonymous

04/25/2018 13:11 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

While slightly less relevant, JKLM still means something as they're the schools that are at 70-80% of "met expectations" on PARCC. Despite being in wealthy areas, Brent, Stoddert, Eaton, and Hearst are still at the ~60% goal of met expectations on PARCC - mostly due to lots of the kids in those areas going to private schools. That puts them more appropriately in the grouping with the second bunch, who are at the 60%ish percentage mark.

I think that second group looks more like:

Brent Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Hyde Addison Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Oyster Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Out of these group, Shepherd and Oyster Adams are of particular note for high performance as they're both majority-minority, which may be particularly appealing for some.

I'd put the third group as potential - but still a ways to go/a lot to prove/no real results yet:
Capitol Hill Montessori
Marie Reed Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School
Thomson Elementary School
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

PP here - correction, Stoddert should be in that top JKLMM(S) tier

Anonymous

04/25/2018 13:05 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say there's not a lot of difference at the top level of the tier. Janney and Mann are quite similar, although Mann unfortunately feeds to Hardy while Janney is in Deal. Lafayette is very strong. Murch is strong, but it's not exactly in the top drawer with Janney and Mann.

Why do people (or a person) have to keep repeating this - there is nothing unfortunate about being fed to Hardy. Given some of the downsides of larger schools some might actually prefer Hardy which is not even half as large as Deal.

Mann fortunately feeds into Hardy, while Janney feeds into overcrowded Deal. Murch is awesome, and Stoddert and Ross are in the top drawer. Something to consider- Janney parents become Deal parents. If you are looking for good teachers, OP, look how lower SES kids are doing at those schools. Only a few schools have that info available though.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 12:56 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

While slightly less relevant, JKLM still means something as they're the schools that are at 70-80% of "met expectations" on PARCC. Despite being in wealthy areas, Brent, Stoddert, Eaton, and Hearst are still at the ~60% goal of met expectations on PARCC - mostly due to lots of the kids in those areas going to private schools. That puts them more appropriately in the grouping with the second bunch, who are at the 60%ish percentage mark.

I think that second group looks more like:

Brent Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Hyde Addison Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Oyster Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Out of these group, Shepherd and Oyster Adams are of particular note for high performance as they're both majority-minority, which may be particularly appealing for some.

I'd put the third group as potential - but still a ways to go/a lot to prove/no real results yet:
Capitol Hill Montessori
Marie Reed Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School
Thomson Elementary School
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

Anonymous

04/25/2018 12:25 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

The schools do have meaningful differences in size, diversity, and personality, with personality being somewhat a function of the principal.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 11:07 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree, I'd say the difference is where you want to live not the schools.

Unless you feel strongly about chickens. Janney has a chicken coop.

Mann has chickens now, also.

Oh my. I guess I shouldn't count them before they all hatch.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:44 Subject: Re:What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:43 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Buy the house you like. That's the real challenge here.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:40 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

As a J Family - we loved the feel of Murch. Hindsight is 20/20 the diversity that is at Murch is something that we would have preferred.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:23 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Most of the chatter about "best" school comes from parents wanting their school to be "best." When the kids get to middle school, you will not see a difference in how prepared they are. If some of them apply to private schools, you will not see a difference in results based on academics. The same child will perform the same way at any one of these schools.

So if you are house hunting, choose the house you like best. If you are making a lottery list, visit them all, list according to your feel for the school, and light candles in your church or perform some sort of voodoo!

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:15 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Eaton has the strongest PARCC results for students of color. Although note that the data set includes multiple schools that didn’t have enough students of color to be statistically significant.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:11 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree, I'd say the difference is where you want to live not the schools.

Unless you feel strongly about chickens. Janney has a chicken coop.

Mann has chickens now, also.

Damn - I think the value of my AU Park Colonial just dropped by 100k.

Anonymous

04/25/2018 10:09 Subject: What are the differences between the JLKMs?

Anonymous wrote:I agree, I'd say the difference is where you want to live not the schools.

Unless you feel strongly about chickens. Janney has a chicken coop.

Mann has chickens now, also.