I am looking at this thread in amazement. We are taking about third grade kids. They are so little you have no idea who will be the great students down the road. I have an older child and there are kids who are rocks stars at older students who were a hot mess in third grade. Placement after third is about factors beyond the kids. Great that everyone is happy with their placement.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think publishing the results was a dumb idea? It's one thing for the school to make this information available to the school community, as it has in the past, but to post it publicly is a poor choice in my opinion.

Oh please. How long do you think it would be before it became public knowledge? Moreover, I’m pretty sure the school is proud of the results and the accomplishment of the children and welcome their parent community giving it a little praise in a public forum. Afterall no one seems to mind the bashing posts, but you question one that by all rights is a positive post? Hmm OK.

OP here: my phrasing was not meant to imply anything other than I was not intending to express if they were better, worse or the same. I am a BVR parent but not with a third grade child. I don’t have much insight on who applied to where but have heard that those children attending public schools are doing so by choice (did not apply to any probates). I’ve also heard that the p-6 and p-8 choices were made after honest assessments between outplacement t and the parents about the best learning environment for their child.

I think it is a bit ridiculous to think that BVR should never be placing a student in a P-8 school. BVR has always been clear that the goal is a good fit after 3rd. And if I am remembering correctly I believe when we were first touring BVR we were told that typically 85% get their 1st choice school. My percentage may be off but I’m pretty sure the percentage was not in the 90’s. In any event, I think the results are solid and a sign that BVR remains a strong school and that the Outplacement Director has a very good year despite the disruption in administration.

What I have observed during my time at BVR is that some people generally have a negative disposition and will always find a way to first see the half empty side of the glass. With 14 schools but the majority of the class staying on The Close, I would hazard to guess that the spread over the other 13 schools is probably 1-2 students at best at each of the other schools.

Anyone else think publishing the results was a dumb idea? It's one thing for the school to make this information available to the school community, as it has in the past, but to post it publicly is a poor choice in my opinion.

17:11, you mistakenly assume that (1) all BVR parents enroll their children there with a plan from the start and (2) their goal when leaving BVR is to never ever have to do outplacement again. Perhaps some parents at the start of third grade assess what might work best for their child in fourth grade, even if it means reassessing again for middle or upper school. And please do not forget that some of those who hope to be "done" with outplacement at this stage may later look at their unhappy middle schooler and think about making a move from their K-12.

You do not know these specific families or their reasons. I know many and respect their decisions. Good luck to the graduating class!

with their, not either! shakes fist at autocorrect

I’m a current third grade parent and most people are happy either results this year. I know quite a few families that chose not to apply for STA/NCS because they felt it was not the right fit. Many of those families chose the k-6/8 route thoughtfully, not as a back up.

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Anonymous wrote:My assessment: it doesn't necessarily look like a redemption from last year's results. I know some on this board had said this class would be different.

Glad to hear that there seem to be stronger results to STA and NCS this year as a majority of parents enter Beauvoir with that intention. (Not all, but definitely a majority.)

Generally speaking, moving to St. Pat's, NPS, Lowell, and Grace Episcopal are not usually the ideal trajectory simply because you have to apply once again in a few years. Mater Dei may be the desire for a Catholic education and/or closer to home. McLean is also a specialized school and Berkeley is an out-of-town move, so not reading into those.

It's the number of k-6, k-8 choices that is surprising. All schools are fine, but if you want that route, you typically start at one of those schools in the first place. Typically people don't go to BVR with the intention of then switching to a k-6 or k-8. Again, trying to be objective here. Not sure what of this, really.

+1000

Excellent assessment

None at Landon?

Anonymous wrote:Some of the top students in the class applied out to Sidwell and/or GDS, but chose to stay on at NCS or STA for next year. I also know another several students in the middle tier of the class who applied out to GDS and/or Sidwell in particular, but were either waitlisted or rejected at those schools. Those students will be going to other schools, or in a few cases, staying for NCS or STA. I do not blame GDS or Sidwell for being more selective about which Beauvoir students they will admit, since BVR families have already expressed an initial preference for, or predisposition toward the Cathedral schools.

OMG! How do you even know what “tier” the kids are in? You’re obviously guessing.

I have no idea where the other children in my kids’ classes stand academically, and I think that’s appropriate.

Also, going to Beauvoir does not mean expressing a preference for Cathedral schools after 3rd grade. It expresses a preference for a particular approach to early childhood education.

Oh my gosh! I don’t even know why I bother coming on this forum it gives me such a headache. Again I’m Beauvoir parent. I have no idea what “tier” any of the kids are in. This is just ridiculous. The third-grade class is a bunch of smart sweet kind kids. People are making a ton of assumptions as to why certain kids went to certain schools. And no one really knows except the families. We did not even apply our kids to sidwell or GDS or Maret because we don’t believe in the philosophy of those schools and we don’t think that they would be a good fit. Who knows what kind of assumptions people have made about us and our school choices. Enough already! Just be happy for the current third-grade class and their families.

Some of the top students in the class applied out to Sidwell and/or GDS, but chose to stay on at NCS or STA for next year. I also know another several students in the middle tier of the class who applied out to GDS and/or Sidwell in particular, but were either waitlisted or rejected at those schools. Those students will be going to other schools, or in a few cases, staying for NCS or STA. I do not blame GDS or Sidwell for being more selective about which Beauvoir students they will admit, since BVR families have already expressed an initial preference for, or predisposition toward the Cathedral schools.

With more than 80 kids departing, that would mean about 10 kids don't get their first choice.

Anonymous wrote:My assessment: it doesn't necessarily look like a redemption from last year's results. I know some on this board had said this class would be different.

Glad to hear that there seem to be stronger results to STA and NCS this year as a majority of parents enter Beauvoir with that intention. (Not all, but definitely a majority.)

Generally speaking, moving to St. Pat's, NPS, Lowell, and Grace Episcopal are not usually the ideal trajectory simply because you have to apply once again in a few years. Mater Dei may be the desire for a Catholic education and/or closer to home. McLean is also a specialized school and Berkeley is an out-of-town move, so not reading into those.

It's the number of k-6, k-8 choices that is surprising. All schools are fine, but if you want that route, you typically start at one of those schools in the first place. Typically people don't go to BVR with the intention of then switching to a k-6 or k-8. Again, trying to be objective here. Not sure what of this, really.

+1000

So somewhere around 12% do not get into their first choice, presumably the Cathedral Schools.