Or perhaps the monorail could fit just over the divider between the oposite direction lanes?

What about doing somethign different, not ugly and a little bit beautiful for a change?
Just imagine putting a monorail Disney World style on both sides of the I270 and 495
going over the shoulders on each side? All it take is few beams here and there, almost zero
footprint... would not require to destroy anything to widen the 270. and frequent fast
trains could solve a LOT Of problems.
We could even start planting some serious floral stuff underneath to make our driving
experience much more pleasurable .

Anonymous wrote:There is not one example where widening roads omproved congestion or improved quality of life

+1

How does development like near Twinbrook metro take the possible widening of 270 into account? Just saw that a new Wegman's will be built at Twinbrook metro station development. Would that be impacted by Hogan's plan? Do they just ignore the possibility unless/until it is implemented and then figure out how to adapt? Isn't there a lot of development going on in all these "sectors" to improve "walkable, transit-oriented communities" near metros (many also near 270 and 1 on beltway)? Will a lot of them be built or in-progress if/when Hogan's plan moves forward?


http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2018/Wegmans-Is-Coming-to-Twinbrook-Development/
http://storereporter.com/breaking-news-wegmans-way-rockville-pike/

I would much rather see improvements in metro. A line from white flint to Montgomery mall to Tysons would be amazing. Then expand metro beyond Shady Grove to go out to Clarksburg then Urbana.

Anonymous wrote:It's absurd the beltway is only four lanes wide in each direction.

The current design was for a region with a population 1/3 of what we have now, but we expect the road to handle it.

Ridiculous. It should be at least 6 lanes in each direction

It's 5 lanes in each direction for chunks of it. Stop trying to bring more people to the DC area would help, we don't need more population. There's no way to make 6 lanes each direction for some parts of the Beltway in Montgomery County without condemning a hospital as well as other very expensive property.

It's absurd the beltway is only four lanes wide in each direction.

The current design was for a region with a population 1/3 of what we have now, but we expect the road to handle it.

Ridiculous. It should be at least 6 lanes in each direction

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Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that they will have to remove places llike Hard Time and Carmen's near exit 6 for space as well as some Woodley Gardens homes

Noooo!!! So not worth it.
They should fix the bottlenecks and then just expand metro from shady grove up to Frederick. People would rather stare at their phones then drive anyway.

Metro is not going to fix things despite what people want to believe. It is not very convenient for most people. And it is expensive.

IMO metro will only fix it if there is a line that goes down to VA but not through DC. That takes way too long to get to Reston for example. They need a line down the 270 corridor, connect through Tysons. If they did that, I better ridership would go up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that they will have to remove places llike Hard Time and Carmen's near exit 6 for space as well as some Woodley Gardens homes

Noooo!!! So not worth it.
They should fix the bottlenecks and then just expand metro from shady grove up to Frederick. People would rather stare at their phones then drive anyway.

Metro is not going to fix things despite what people want to believe. It is not very convenient for most people. And it is expensive.

It is only expensive because people are not footing the bill for the roads when they use them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't they do a double level

+1 more expensive, but then how much would they spend on "eminent domain"?

No one wants the beltway in the backyard and close to their parks and schools. The whole idea is just crappy all around.
There’s no reason to ‘Emi any domain ‘ the beltway into people’s neighborhoods except for consistency poor policy and shortsighted decisions on the part of the politicians from the last 10-15 years.

Anonymous wrote:There is not one example where widening roads omproved congestion or improved quality of life

We added the ICC and traffic has not lightened up.

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they do a double level

+1 more expensive, but then how much would they spend on "eminent domain"?

Why don't they do a double level

There is not one example where widening roads omproved congestion or improved quality of life

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that they will have to remove places llike Hard Time and Carmen's near exit 6 for space as well as some Woodley Gardens homes

Noooo!!! So not worth it.
They should fix the bottlenecks and then just expand metro from shady grove up to Frederick. People would rather stare at their phones then drive anyway.

Metro is not going to fix things despite what people want to believe. It is not very convenient for most people. And it is expensive.

Exactly! I never take the metro because it always ends up taking longer and the fares add up. Not worth it.

You'll enjoy these articles then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/12/05/i-66-toll-in-virginia-reaches-new-high-of-36-50-on-day-2/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a45a9091bf4f

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/12/570248568/are-40-toll-roads-the-future

Any future roads in the metro area should have tolls. People who complain about the cost of metro are about to understand just how much driving really costs.

I agree. Imagine how much worse the roads will be if Amazon comes to the area. Tax the drivers and make them consider public transit.