Anonymous
04/17/2018 20:09
Subject: Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
I work in a DCC school and at least 20% of the letters we mail to parents get returned to the school. Everyone is swamped. No one is going to have time to chase these kids down. They move constantly in and out of MoCo and in and out of the DCC. They are nearly all illegal but no school official wants to be deemed racist for calling these kids' families out.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 19:09
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:I'm glad that MCPS has more than 50 people working on residency fraud. I alerted our principal that two "students" lived in Howard County. She did not want to report them because the received funding for them and the year was almost over anyway (at the time it was December). I wish the residency MCPS personnel did random book checking to crack down on principals. Our PTA is bringing up this issue because we've talked to a classmate of our daughter's who openly admits he lives in Columbia.
We have a student at our MS who lives in Frederick! Parents work in MoCo and used to live here so the kid use to have a valid address. Now they use an aunt’s address.
We have a dozen families in my kids’ ES grade who do not live in boundary. Some use false addresses, some actually have COSAs. Nobody ever kicks them out. Not sure what the 52 people are actually doing. They certainly are not going after the people at our ES.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 18:39
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:I'm glad that MCPS has more than 50 people working on residency fraud. I alerted our principal that two "students" lived in Howard County. She did not want to report them because the received funding for them and the year was almost over anyway (at the time it was December). I wish the residency MCPS personnel did random book checking to crack down on principals. Our PTA is bringing up this issue because we've talked to a classmate of our daughter's who openly admits he lives in Columbia.
Call me quaint, but I'd rather have MCPS with 15 people working on residency fraud (like Fairfax County does for more students than we have in MCPS) rather than 52 and free up some of that Central office bloat for paraprofessionals so that students could get more support with the ever increasing class sizes (which Fairfax County provides for its lower elementary school classes).
Anonymous
04/17/2018 15:59
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Public school count day....duh
Anonymous
04/17/2018 15:45
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:I'm glad that MCPS has more than 50 people working on residency fraud. I alerted our principal that two "students" lived in Howard County. She did not want to report them because the received funding for them and the year was almost over anyway (at the time it was December). I wish the residency MCPS personnel did random book checking to crack down on principals. Our PTA is bringing up this issue because we've talked to a classmate of our daughter's who openly admits he lives in Columbia.
what funding did she receive for them?
Anonymous
04/17/2018 15:29
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
I'm glad that MCPS has more than 50 people working on residency fraud. I alerted our principal that two "students" lived in Howard County. She did not want to report them because the received funding for them and the year was almost over anyway (at the time it was December). I wish the residency MCPS personnel did random book checking to crack down on principals. Our PTA is bringing up this issue because we've talked to a classmate of our daughter's who openly admits he lives in Columbia.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 13:02
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:OP here.... I am not trying to do anything illegal or fraud the system. I didn’t ask “do I have to pay tuition...?”... I asked “can I pay tuition?”. How much is it and how do I go about doing it? Anyone know?
Call MCPS?
Anonymous
04/17/2018 12:31
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fairfax has more students (186,000) than MoCo (168,000) but only 15 people working on residency cheating vs 52 in MoCo. Perhaps we could use some Fairfax efficiency here
You don't know how much time any of the people spend..some of the 52 could spend 1 hour a week.
True. And unless McPS central office provides detail of what these 52 people are doing with respect to residency we do not know. But without that detail, if at first glance, it does not seem the most efficient way to staff.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 07:52
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:OP here.... I am not trying to do anything illegal or fraud the system. I didn’t ask “do I have to pay tuition...?”... I asked “can I pay tuition?”. How much is it and how do I go about doing it? Anyone know?
Search DCUM, there have been previous threads about this. It sounds like in the past there was the possibility of a HS principal signing off on accepting an out of boundary student and then that student would pay MCPS tuition. However, with over crowding it doesn't seem to be happening anymore. Also search WaPo, they've written articles, again it sounds like a thing of the past.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 07:35
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
OP here.... I am not trying to do anything illegal or fraud the system. I didn’t ask “do I have to pay tuition...?”... I asked “can I pay tuition?”. How much is it and how do I go about doing it? Anyone know?
Anonymous
04/17/2018 07:14
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:Fairfax has more students (186,000) than MoCo (168,000) but only 15 people working on residency cheating vs 52 in MoCo. Perhaps we could use some Fairfax efficiency here
You don't know how much time any of the people spend..some of the 52 could spend 1 hour a week.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 06:34
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Fairfax has more students (186,000) than MoCo (168,000) but only 15 people working on residency cheating vs 52 in MoCo. Perhaps we could use some Fairfax efficiency here
Anonymous
04/17/2018 06:25
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s fraud. I work in MCPS and we’ve caught people doing this and kicked the kid out of the school mid year. Do you want to run that risk?
How often do you catch people? Very very rare to get caught. Families have done this for years without consequence.
MCPS does not have the resources or the ability to enforce residency requirements.
Actually if you read today's WaPo-we have a whole lot of people working on this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/stop-enrollment-fraud-dc-school-officials-are-often-the-ones-committing-it/2018/04/16/03b816c0-3ce7-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31ab34d29013
In neighboring Montgomery County, Md., where the public school system has almost twice as many students as the District, a spokesman said 52 employees spend at least part of their time on residency investigations. Last fiscal year, the system investigated 225 residency claims and found 135 of those families lived outside the county.
In Virginia’s Fairfax County, the school district’s central office employs 15 attendance officers whose duties include investigating residency fraud. A spokesman said fewer than 100 students were found to be living outside Fairfax County each year for the past eight years.
The District currently has a single investigator responsible for all residency fraud cases.
52 people devoted to residency cheating with 225 cases a year? Would be nice to have some of those central office staff dedicated to actually working directly with our students.
Where did you get "devoted" from "spends at least part of their time"?
Anonymous
04/17/2018 05:38
Subject: Re:Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:It’s fraud. I work in MCPS and we’ve caught people doing this and kicked the kid out of the school mid year. Do you want to run that risk?
same
We used to remove kids all the time, especially if they were behavior problems.
Anonymous
04/17/2018 05:36
Subject: Can a DC resident pay for their child(ren) to attend a MD public school?
Anonymous wrote:You do not need to pay! Find someone who lives in MCPS that you can trust and ask to use their address. We have so many people who do this at our ES and MS. Much easier.
WHAT?
OP, ignore the ignorant poster.
Below are the rules from the regs - http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/sharedaccountability/StudentRecordKeeperManual.pdf
You will have to pay tuition if you don't fit into one of these categories.
Schools can directly enroll a student under any one (1) of the following circumstances:
? Parent/guardian is a bona fide resident of Montgomery County. If parents live apart, the
bona fide residence is that of:
? Parent/guardian with legal custody.
OR
? If custody is not awarded, parent/guardian with whom the student regularly lives.
? Eligible Student (has reached age of majority (18) or is legally emancipated by a court) and
is a bona fide resident of Montgomery County.
? Homelessness (page E-7).
? Maryland Informal Kinship Care (page E-8)
? Maryland state-supervised care (page E-9) i.e. foster care, group home, and other
placements.
? Enrolled in a U.S. school at any time during the prior two years.
? Enrolled in a U.S. Department of Defense Education Activity or an accredited American
International school in a foreign country.
? Living with a court appointed custodian.
? Family is new to Montgomery County and has a pending contract for the purchase or lease
of a home within 30 days of enrollment. Requires proof of residence within 30 days.