Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 12:35     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:DH and I red-shirted and don't care if other parents are upset. Someone will always be able to do something that someone else can't do. Fun fact: Life is not fair nor equitable. I wish I was born a Hilton, but I'm not, so I carry on and work with the normal life granted to me.

Talk with your daughter about advocating/standing up for herself or alternatively speak with the child's parents. However, realistically she'll be fine.


Can you share what research you found that supports the idea of red shirting? I'm researching and I can't find unbiased sources to support it.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 12:34     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH and I red-shirted and don't care if other parents are upset. Someone will always be able to do something that someone else can't do. Fun fact: Life is not fair nor equitable. I wish I was born a Hilton, but I'm not, so I carry on and work with the normal life granted to me.

Talk with your daughter about advocating/standing up for herself or alternatively speak with the child's parents. However, realistically she'll be fine.


LOL!

Life isn't fair so I don't care if I'm the cause of unfairness for other people.

Parents never fail to disappoint.


+1
"Talk with your daughter about advocating/standing up for herself" but not my son- we decided to re-engineer the class to suit his needs.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 12:31     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:DH and I red-shirted and don't care if other parents are upset. Someone will always be able to do something that someone else can't do. Fun fact: Life is not fair nor equitable. I wish I was born a Hilton, but I'm not, so I carry on and work with the normal life granted to me.

Talk with your daughter about advocating/standing up for herself or alternatively speak with the child's parents. However, realistically she'll be fine.


LOL!

Life isn't fair so I don't care if I'm the cause of unfairness for other people.

Parents never fail to disappoint.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 12:31     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
^^ Oh, and DCPS cannot retain or move a child forward without parental consent.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 12:30     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:This is not a question regarding the costs or benefits of red-shirting generally. For a variety of reasons my daughter will complete one more year of Pre-K in 2018-19 and therefore turn 6 the summer before we expect to send her to Kindergarten. Is there any rule or restriction in DCPS that would require her to move directly to 1st grade? I know that is an issue in certain other jurisdictions but have not known that to be the case here. We are new to the area and appreciate any insight.


Your kid will be fine if you hold her back this year. I've had to retain students who are young for their age in first (i.e. starting first at 5) and most never notice (I'm not joking - I had a mom who just told the student "you're in Ms. XYZ's class again!"). The parents who are on you are just being jerks. You know your kid and what will be best for her. As a teacher, I'd rather have a kid who is 6 for all of K than one who turns five on September 30th.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 11:45     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
DH and I red-shirted and don't care if other parents are upset. Someone will always be able to do something that someone else can't do. Fun fact: Life is not fair nor equitable. I wish I was born a Hilton, but I'm not, so I carry on and work with the normal life granted to me.

Talk with your daughter about advocating/standing up for herself or alternatively speak with the child's parents. However, realistically she'll be fine.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 11:17     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


What's it to me? People who red shirt for no specific documented reason put the other, age appropriate kids in that class at a disadvantage throughout schooling.


Yea, it does impact the class. My dd turned 5 in August, and is in K. Recently she cried to me because some little boy told her she's too young for kindergarten, that she should be in pre-k. I reassure her as best I can, but having older kids in the class does indeed impact the others.


Let me get this straight. Your daughter cried once, that that should determine when other kids start school? No. Doesn't work that way.


You’re so thick. PP’s daughter is in the correct grade for her age but she’s subjected to a spoiled little shit whose parents gave him “the gift of time” who feels like he can pick on the younger kids because he was held back.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 11:11     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


NP here. Because when 6 and then 7 year olds are in K, its unfair to the correctly-aged kids. The older ones get bored, act up and misbehave. Later on they are hitting puberty earlier, are more mature which pulls all the issues of puberty across the grade early.


Let me ask you this. Do you have the same objections to kids getting held back and having to repeat Kindergarten? Because this happens with regularity at our DCPS. Unfortunately a lot of those kids are just starting school for the first time in K and are behind the kids with years of preschool under their belts. They would have been better served starting in PK4.


If this were the case, it would be a documented reason. Not just because the parent feels like it.

(Although I'm against holding kids back because the research isn't there to support it)


No, principals have the discretion to hold back. There's no "documented" reason other than that the kid is behind, in their view.

Also "the research' doesn't show anything about any particular kid. How about MYOB and worry about your own kid.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 10:14     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Why do you want to do this? Just curious.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 10:13     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:Aren't you concerned that she'd be bored in K at 6?


Not a concern. On time kids turn 6 in K starting on October 1, so kids with Fall birthdays are also 6 basically for the whole K year. They aren't bored no matter how smart they are because K is fun.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 10:05     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


NP here. Because when 6 and then 7 year olds are in K, its unfair to the correctly-aged kids. The older ones get bored, act up and misbehave. Later on they are hitting puberty earlier, are more mature which pulls all the issues of puberty across the grade early.


Let me ask you this. Do you have the same objections to kids getting held back and having to repeat Kindergarten? Because this happens with regularity at our DCPS. Unfortunately a lot of those kids are just starting school for the first time in K and are behind the kids with years of preschool under their belts. They would have been better served starting in PK4.


If this were the case, it would be a documented reason. Not just because the parent feels like it.

(Although I'm against holding kids back because the research isn't there to support it)
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 09:58     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


What's it to me? People who red shirt for no specific documented reason put the other, age appropriate kids in that class at a disadvantage throughout schooling.


Yea, it does impact the class. My dd turned 5 in August, and is in K. Recently she cried to me because some little boy told her she's too young for kindergarten, that she should be in pre-k. I reassure her as best I can, but having older kids in the class does indeed impact the others.


Let me get this straight. Your daughter cried once, that that should determine when other kids start school? No. Doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 09:57     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


NP here. Because when 6 and then 7 year olds are in K, its unfair to the correctly-aged kids. The older ones get bored, act up and misbehave. Later on they are hitting puberty earlier, are more mature which pulls all the issues of puberty across the grade early.


Let me ask you this. Do you have the same objections to kids getting held back and having to repeat Kindergarten? Because this happens with regularity at our DCPS. Unfortunately a lot of those kids are just starting school for the first time in K and are behind the kids with years of preschool under their belts. They would have been better served starting in PK4.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 09:56     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - She is in private pre-K.


depends on the school. At my school the principal would move her to 1st unless there was a serious reason not to.


And the good reason would usually be covered by an IEP.



Then it would be a good reason!


This is NOT true. Many kids with IEPs are BETTER served if they start school on time and stay with their class. There's no one-size fits all here, at all. I know parents who have chosen to redshirt their kids with IEPs, and those who haven't.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2018 09:53     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


What's it to me? People who red shirt for no specific documented reason put the other, age appropriate kids in that class at a disadvantage throughout schooling.


Yea, it does impact the class. My dd turned 5 in August, and is in K. Recently she cried to me because some little boy told her she's too young for kindergarten, that she should be in pre-k. I reassure her as best I can, but having older kids in the class does indeed impact the others.