Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:51     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
OP, stop living vicariously through your daughter. Let her live her life. Life is long, with many twists and turns. Graduating with a STEM degree doesn't automatically mean a happier life than graduating with a "lesser" degree.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:48     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
My daughter did the same, OP. 4.45 GPA. National Merit Scholar. Full academic scholarship. She was originally pre-med and doing fantastic. She switched to Elementary Education. She has been out of college for three years. She teaches in a self-contained autism classroom and absolutely loves it. She is happy. That's what matters. I am incredibly proud of her.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:45     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, is teaching only supposed to be for dumb people who can't do something more lucrative?

Education programs are not known for selective admissions standards or rigorous classwork, no.

I don't have the link but of all majors, education majors tend to have SAT scores that put them firmly at the bottom...


So should we deter intelligent and driven people from choosing to become teachers, or should we let our children benefit from having skilled teachers?

Of course not! Just pointing out the facts.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:44     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
What is mcboa vs mcaap?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:32     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is incredible smart. She graduated Salutatorian of her High School and has made the Deans list for the past 3 semesters and will probably make it her fourth. Since her Sophmore year is HS DD has been adamant about going to business supply. She worked her ass of in HS and has in college as well in order to get into her grad school of choice. She’s currently at a top 10 school and is majoring in business and finance. She is a very strong math/Econ is student as my DH and I was so proud that she wanted to work in a male dominated field. I’ve always encouraged her to work hard so she can become financially independent as a woman in this economy. I pushed STEM/Medical/Busienss/Finances as DH and I both know those at promising career paths. DD has recently decided to switch to an elementary education degree in get a teaching certificate. She wants to teach 5th grade mathematics, which is great but feels like a waste of her intellect and drive. I believe teaching is a difficult and underpaid field, and I don’t want to see her struggle financially and not reach her full potential. I believe her advisor inspired this massive change. I am disappointed she’d make such a change and just worry. No disrespect to teachers, you are priceless but you know the struggle. I know I don’t have much control over her decisions, but I think she’ll really regret wasting her opportunities.


I think your belief that teachers are poorly paid and mistreated is the result of teachers' union propaganda.

In some parts of the country, experienced public school teachers with master's degrees make over $100,000 per year, with a regular schedule that's conducive to having a family. Principals can easily make $150,000.

Entrepreneurial teachers who use their knowledge to start education-related can become billionaires.

If your daughter is a bright, energetic, well-educated teacher, she'll probably be in a good position to decide for herself what her income will be.


I'm the principal from an earlier post.
Fairfax County's starting salary for a teacher with a master's degree is in the low 50s. I've been a teacher and now administrator for 27 years. I will be making $143K. Salary schedules are public information. FCPS's can be found here: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-teacher-194-day.pdf

Please share these "parts of the country" where teachers are making over $100K a year and include how many years experience they have.


http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf


If I’m reading this correctly, I would have to have a master’s degree and 19 years experience to break $100K.
And
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:32     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, is teaching only supposed to be for dumb people who can't do something more lucrative?

Education programs are not known for selective admissions standards or rigorous classwork, no.

I don't have the link but of all majors, education majors tend to have SAT scores that put them firmly at the bottom...


So should we deter intelligent and driven people from choosing to become teachers, or should we let our children benefit from having skilled teachers?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:20     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:Wait, is teaching only supposed to be for dumb people who can't do something more lucrative?

Education programs are not known for selective admissions standards or rigorous classwork, no.

I don't have the link but of all majors, education majors tend to have SAT scores that put them firmly at the bottom...
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:17     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is incredible smart. She graduated Salutatorian of her High School and has made the Deans list for the past 3 semesters and will probably make it her fourth. Since her Sophmore year is HS DD has been adamant about going to business supply. She worked her ass of in HS and has in college as well in order to get into her grad school of choice. She’s currently at a top 10 school and is majoring in business and finance. She is a very strong math/Econ is student as my DH and I was so proud that she wanted to work in a male dominated field. I’ve always encouraged her to work hard so she can become financially independent as a woman in this economy. I pushed STEM/Medical/Busienss/Finances as DH and I both know those at promising career paths. DD has recently decided to switch to an elementary education degree in get a teaching certificate. She wants to teach 5th grade mathematics, which is great but feels like a waste of her intellect and drive. I believe teaching is a difficult and underpaid field, and I don’t want to see her struggle financially and not reach her full potential. I believe her advisor inspired this massive change. I am disappointed she’d make such a change and just worry. No disrespect to teachers, you are priceless but you know the struggle. I know I don’t have much control over her decisions, but I think she’ll really regret wasting her opportunities.


I think your belief that teachers are poorly paid and mistreated is the result of teachers' union propaganda.

In some parts of the country, experienced public school teachers with master's degrees make over $100,000 per year, with a regular schedule that's conducive to having a family. Principals can easily make $150,000.

Entrepreneurial teachers who use their knowledge to start education-related can become billionaires.

If your daughter is a bright, energetic, well-educated teacher, she'll probably be in a good position to decide for herself what her income will be.


I'm the principal from an earlier post.
Fairfax County's starting salary for a teacher with a master's degree is in the low 50s. I've been a teacher and now administrator for 27 years. I will be making $143K. Salary schedules are public information. FCPS's can be found here: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-teacher-194-day.pdf

Please share these "parts of the country" where teachers are making over $100K a year and include how many years experience they have.


http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 21:10     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Wait, is teaching only supposed to be for dumb people who can't do something more lucrative?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:55     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
My brother wanted to be a teacher, my parents strongly discouraged him and encouraged him to major in business and economics. My parents thinking we’re very similar than yours (he was really smart, to be a teacher is neither a lucrative or glamorous job). He did, but never worked in his field. He didn’t have a real passion for it. After a couple of years doing “odd” jobs went back to college got a completely different degree and now works in a field that truly interested him. My only word of advise is to be very careful with your advice. My parents “won” or that they thought but looking back it was a real mistake.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:52     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is incredible smart. She graduated Salutatorian of her High School and has made the Deans list for the past 3 semesters and will probably make it her fourth. Since her Sophmore year is HS DD has been adamant about going to business supply. She worked her ass of in HS and has in college as well in order to get into her grad school of choice. She’s currently at a top 10 school and is majoring in business and finance. She is a very strong math/Econ is student as my DH and I was so proud that she wanted to work in a male dominated field. I’ve always encouraged her to work hard so she can become financially independent as a woman in this economy. I pushed STEM/Medical/Busienss/Finances as DH and I both know those at promising career paths. DD has recently decided to switch to an elementary education degree in get a teaching certificate. She wants to teach 5th grade mathematics, which is great but feels like a waste of her intellect and drive. I believe teaching is a difficult and underpaid field, and I don’t want to see her struggle financially and not reach her full potential. I believe her advisor inspired this massive change. I am disappointed she’d make such a change and just worry. No disrespect to teachers, you are priceless but you know the struggle. I know I don’t have much control over her decisions, but I think she’ll really regret wasting her opportunities.


I think your belief that teachers are poorly paid and mistreated is the result of teachers' union propaganda.

In some parts of the country, experienced public school teachers with master's degrees make over $100,000 per year, with a regular schedule that's conducive to having a family. Principals can easily make $150,000.

Entrepreneurial teachers who use their knowledge to start education-related can become billionaires.

If your daughter is a bright, energetic, well-educated teacher, she'll probably be in a good position to decide for herself what her income will be.


I'm the principal from an earlier post.
Fairfax County's starting salary for a teacher with a master's degree is in the low 50s. I've been a teacher and now administrator for 27 years. I will be making $143K. Salary schedules are public information. FCPS's can be found here: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-teacher-194-day.pdf

Please share these "parts of the country" where teachers are making over $100K a year and include how many years experience they have.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:49     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
OP sounds controlling
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:47     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Anonymous wrote:DD is incredible smart. She graduated Salutatorian of her High School and has made the Deans list for the past 3 semesters and will probably make it her fourth. Since her Sophmore year is HS DD has been adamant about going to business supply. She worked her ass of in HS and has in college as well in order to get into her grad school of choice. She’s currently at a top 10 school and is majoring in business and finance. She is a very strong math/Econ is student as my DH and I was so proud that she wanted to work in a male dominated field. I’ve always encouraged her to work hard so she can become financially independent as a woman in this economy. I pushed STEM/Medical/Busienss/Finances as DH and I both know those at promising career paths. DD has recently decided to switch to an elementary education degree in get a teaching certificate. She wants to teach 5th grade mathematics, which is great but feels like a waste of her intellect and drive. I believe teaching is a difficult and underpaid field, and I don’t want to see her struggle financially and not reach her full potential. I believe her advisor inspired this massive change. I am disappointed she’d make such a change and just worry. No disrespect to teachers, you are priceless but you know the struggle. I know I don’t have much control over her decisions, but I think she’ll really regret wasting her opportunities.


I think your belief that teachers are poorly paid and mistreated is the result of teachers' union propaganda.

In some parts of the country, experienced public school teachers with master's degrees make over $100,000 per year, with a regular schedule that's conducive to having a family. Principals can easily make $150,000.

Entrepreneurial teachers who use their knowledge to start education-related can become billionaires.

If your daughter is a bright, energetic, well-educated teacher, she'll probably be in a good position to decide for herself what her income will be.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:45     Subject: Re:Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
Is it her dream to be a teacher or was she overwhelmed with the other majors and tapped out?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2018 20:43     Subject: Angry at college sophomore for changing to lower paying major
I was a philosophy major in college. My only regret is that I didn't do theology or religious studies. I could have started a church and money would have rolled in. I hope your daughter follows HER dream and not yours.