Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 10:15     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread. My kid attended PK3 at a Title 1 school and I was never quite sure what these meetings were about. I didn't know that their primary purpose was for parents to help each other.

I remember how on one occasion, I missed a meeting because my child was sick, and afterwards the teacher said how unfortunate it was that I wasn't there because she had wanted me to tell the other parents about the things we were doing at home to help our child, who was doing very well, succeed. I just breathed a sigh of relief that I had dodged what I thought would have been an extremely awkward situation of me (the only white, UMC parent in the room) "educating" the other parents on how to improve their kids' performance. Especially since the truth was that we didn't do anything tangible - we never practiced anything academic at home (I didn't think it was necessary to do these things at age 3), and we didn't even read all that much because my child wasn't that interested in books at the time. Obviously our home environment still somehow furthered my child's success, but there wasn't anything that I could have told the other parents to do.


Oh god no. How incredibly awkward. And why on earth would it be better to hear it from other parents than from a teacher?


PP here and I agree. I was also surprised that the teacher (who was black) didn't seem to see how awkward this would have been.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 10:10     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread. My kid attended PK3 at a Title 1 school and I was never quite sure what these meetings were about. I didn't know that their primary purpose was for parents to help each other.

I remember how on one occasion, I missed a meeting because my child was sick, and afterwards the teacher said how unfortunate it was that I wasn't there because she had wanted me to tell the other parents about the things we were doing at home to help our child, who was doing very well, succeed. I just breathed a sigh of relief that I had dodged what I thought would have been an extremely awkward situation of me (the only white, UMC parent in the room) "educating" the other parents on how to improve their kids' performance. Especially since the truth was that we didn't do anything tangible - we never practiced anything academic at home (I didn't think it was necessary to do these things at age 3), and we didn't even read all that much because my child wasn't that interested in books at the time. Obviously our home environment still somehow furthered my child's success, but there wasn't anything that I could have told the other parents to do.


Oh god no. How incredibly awkward. And why on earth would it be better to hear it from other parents than from a teacher?
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 09:45     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Interesting thread. My kid attended PK3 at a Title 1 school and I was never quite sure what these meetings were about. I didn't know that their primary purpose was for parents to help each other.

I remember how on one occasion, I missed a meeting because my child was sick, and afterwards the teacher said how unfortunate it was that I wasn't there because she had wanted me to tell the other parents about the things we were doing at home to help our child, who was doing very well, succeed. I just breathed a sigh of relief that I had dodged what I thought would have been an extremely awkward situation of me (the only white, UMC parent in the room) "educating" the other parents on how to improve their kids' performance. Especially since the truth was that we didn't do anything tangible - we never practiced anything academic at home (I didn't think it was necessary to do these things at age 3), and we didn't even read all that much because my child wasn't that interested in books at the time. Obviously our home environment still somehow furthered my child's success, but there wasn't anything that I could have told the other parents to do.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 08:03     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.


Actually that's not the point -- it is to raise achievement. The concept was developed in communities where there was low parent engagement and low student achievement. A big part is supposed to be to education and provide parents with ways to help their kid. It begins with the teacher home visits in the beginning of the year, and the APTT meetings are another piece.

It probably isn't 'needed' for parents who haunt this board, but you are not the target audience. Whether other parents who are less comfortable and adept engaging with their child's teachers find this informative and useful is a better measure.


Thank you for stating more clearly than me. This is the point I didn't actually make but was trying to in a dickish way.


It isn't working at our school. The low-income parents don't show up. So I really don't see whose interests are being served here. I go out of obligation, and there are a few other parents of high-performing kids, and we all sit there awkwardly while the teacher makes a presentation about things our kids have moved way beyond. Then we eat the snacks. Then we all ask for our own conferences so we can have some privacy and actually discuss things specific to our child. It feels like a giant waste of time and I only play along because I know there is funding attached.



Don’t play along. Put your concerns in writing and give to both the principal and Flamboyan. Be specific. If their $ isn’t doing what it is supposed to, then they should welcome that feedback and look at investing in something else.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:39     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


This. People are very interested, because there's some pretty bad performance going on at our school. But seeing the data just makes them dislike the school even more.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:37     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.


It may be supposed to, but it doesn't work at our school. People don't show up, and it's embarrassing to talk about how far behind some of the kids are, so people just listen to the teacher's spiel and chit chat with each other. If my child were behind, I would not really care what the parents of kids who are ahead think I should do about it. They wouldn't understand.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:34     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.


Actually that's not the point -- it is to raise achievement. The concept was developed in communities where there was low parent engagement and low student achievement. A big part is supposed to be to education and provide parents with ways to help their kid. It begins with the teacher home visits in the beginning of the year, and the APTT meetings are another piece.

It probably isn't 'needed' for parents who haunt this board, but you are not the target audience. Whether other parents who are less comfortable and adept engaging with their child's teachers find this informative and useful is a better measure.


Thank you for stating more clearly than me. This is the point I didn't actually make but was trying to in a dickish way.


It isn't working at our school. The low-income parents don't show up. So I really don't see whose interests are being served here. I go out of obligation, and there are a few other parents of high-performing kids, and we all sit there awkwardly while the teacher makes a presentation about things our kids have moved way beyond. Then we eat the snacks. Then we all ask for our own conferences so we can have some privacy and actually discuss things specific to our child. It feels like a giant waste of time and I only play along because I know there is funding attached.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:22     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.


Actually that's not the point -- it is to raise achievement. The concept was developed in communities where there was low parent engagement and low student achievement. A big part is supposed to be to education and provide parents with ways to help their kid. It begins with the teacher home visits in the beginning of the year, and the APTT meetings are another piece.

It probably isn't 'needed' for parents who haunt this board, but you are not the target audience. Whether other parents who are less comfortable and adept engaging with their child's teachers find this informative and useful is a better measure.


Thank you for stating more clearly than me. This is the point I didn't actually make but was trying to in a dickish way.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:09     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.


Actually that's not the point -- it is to raise achievement. The concept was developed in communities where there was low parent engagement and low student achievement. A big part is supposed to be to education and provide parents with ways to help their kid. It begins with the teacher home visits in the beginning of the year, and the APTT meetings are another piece.

It probably isn't 'needed' for parents who haunt this board, but you are not the target audience. Whether other parents who are less comfortable and adept engaging with their child's teachers find this informative and useful is a better measure.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:04     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:They seem like a violation of people’s privacy to me. Why do you need data on other kids in the class? You need data in how your child is doing. They don’t give me my colleagues’ performance reviews.


Don't you know whether your unit or company met its target or achieved its goals? This is not much different than that.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 07:02     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.


The point is to build a parent community, right? I'm sure it generally fails in practice (I've only read about it because.the school my kid will start on the fall does them), but the idea is to create a supportive environment to empower all parents to support their kids and help one another on a facilitated setting. I get it. But this post is enough to explain why it would be prone to failure.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 06:31     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
And i’m Not saying parents aren’t interested in data in other kids’ performance. But that’s gossip not need to know.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 06:30     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
They seem like a violation of people’s privacy to me. Why do you need data on other kids in the class? You need data in how your child is doing. They don’t give me my colleagues’ performance reviews.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 06:04     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
Anonymous wrote:What does APTT stand for?


http://flamboyanfoundation.org/focus/family-engagement/academic-parent-teacher-teams/
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2018 00:54     Subject: Do you have APTT conferences at your school and how do you like it?
What does APTT stand for?