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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

They do not care. If policy is super-scoring, you don't get "extra pts" for submitting a single sitting store. It's better to take the exam again for super scoring schools. The only exception when you do NOT want to retake is top tier schools. If you retake 34 to get 35 or 36, they will not view that in positive light.

Interesting. Where did you find this info? (The part where top tier schools frown upon retaking a 34 for a higher score?)

Schools don’t want “professional test takers.” One of the issues with Asian applicants.

I agree with you. But how is taking a test twice make one a professional test taker? In fact, most prep courses recommend taking a test twice for super scoring purposes. As PP stated, you don’t get extra points for scoring 1550 in one sitting if a school superscores.

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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

They do not care. If policy is super-scoring, you don't get "extra pts" for submitting a single sitting store. It's better to take the exam again for super scoring schools. The only exception when you do NOT want to retake is top tier schools. If you retake 34 to get 35 or 36, they will not view that in positive light.

Interesting. Where did you find this info? (The part where top tier schools frown upon retaking a 34 for a higher score?)

Schools don’t want “professional test takers.” One of the issues with Asian applicants.

Yes, she should re-take to try to make it over the 1500 hump. Her score is high but going over 1500 will help. When she studies for the re-takes, what will she do differently to improve her outcome? Studying more or harder the same way is unlikely to move the needle so she needs to change up something.

But that's not true...

There's an academic rating system where you have to have a perfect score or close to get the top score. The Ivies use something called an academic achievement index, scored out of 240, calculated with GPA and testing.

"Much of their information was encoded in numbers: Each of my recommendations was scored on a scale of 1–9, my grades and scores were compiled into an academic index on a scale of 240 and I even received a score for “personal/extracurricular” activities."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/02/24/my-glimpse-into-admissions/

Anonymous wrote:I don't think that part is true.

Williams has clearly defined academic rating numbers where they distinguish between a 34 and a 35/36: http://ephblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Academic-Rating-Details.pdf

My DC took an SAT prep course where the teacher said that your SAT/ACT score gets you in the “consider pile” and your grades kick you out of that pile. Essentially, once you hit a certain level score/percentile then its all the same to them. The rest of your file determines your admission (or denial).

I don't think that part is true.

Williams has clearly defined academic rating numbers where they distinguish between a 34 and a 35/36: http://ephblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Academic-Rating-Details.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

They do not care. If policy is super-scoring, you don't get "extra pts" for submitting a single sitting store. It's better to take the exam again for super scoring schools. The only exception when you do NOT want to retake is top tier schools. If you retake 34 to get 35 or 36, they will not view that in positive light.

Interesting. Where did you find this info? (The part where top tier schools frown upon retaking a 34 for a higher score?)

Anonymous wrote:Also, some of those schools want SAT2s

This. I would focus on stellar SAT2 scores in 2 subjects she wants to highlight.

definitely take again

Also, some of those schools want SAT2s

I think I'd let her try the ACT, as others have said. Girls have more competition for college admission, unless it's a very stem-y field,

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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

They do not care. If policy is super-scoring, you don't get "extra pts" for submitting a single sitting store. It's better to take the exam again for super scoring schools. The only exception when you do NOT want to retake is top tier schools. If you retake 34 to get 35 or 36, they will not view that in positive light.

Thanks good to know.

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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

They do not care. If policy is super-scoring, you don't get "extra pts" for submitting a single sitting store. It's better to take the exam again for super scoring schools. The only exception when you do NOT want to retake is top tier schools. If you retake 34 to get 35 or 36, they will not view that in positive light.

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Anonymous wrote:How are all the kids applying to college achieving SAT scores in the "upper 99th percentile".

By definition of "upper 99th percentile" very few kids would have these scores.

it's "single sitting" percentile vs. "super scoring" schools use in admission process. For example, only 1 out of 100 kids may get to a 33 (or whatever 99 percentile score is) in a single sitting, but multiple kids will get a 33 if superscoring is allowed.

Do colleges know if you are submitting a single sitting score or a super score?

1490 does feel like an awkward score. My DS had a 1480 (which was actually higher than he had on his two practice tests) and ended up being annoyed that it wasn't a 1500. (I was happy with the score, but he decided on his own to take an ACT without prep and got a 34. He never did retake the SAT). He doesn't care about selective schools though. If he were looking at the schools on your D's list, I would have strongly encouraged him to re-test.

If it's too stressful to take it junior year, maybe she could take it in August.